Ciro Santilli's GitHub Profile
Check out: OurBigBook.com, the best way to publish your scientific knowledge. It is an open source note taking system that can publish from lightweight markup files in your computer to both a multi-user mind-melding dynamic website, or as static HTML. It's like Wikipedia + GitHub + Stack Overflow + Obsidian mashed up. Source code: https://github.com/ourbigbook/ourbigbook
Sponsor me: https://cirosantilli.com/sponsor 400k USD = I quit my for 1 more year to work edtech + higher ed reform. Status: ~44k / 400k USD. The 1st year started 1st June 2024 after 100k USD was reached with 1000 Monero donation. Trying to kickstart The Higher Education Revolution. A second year would increase the chances of success: on year 2 I come guns blazing with amazing tech and and try to expand.
Mission: to live in a world where you can learn university-level mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology and engineering from perfect free open source books that anyone can write to get famous.
Ciro Santilli's homepage is: https://cirosantilli.com
Sponsor Ciro at https://github.com/sponsors/cirosantilli so he can work full time on: https://OurBigBook.com and on writing amazing university-level natural science and technology tutorials for all ages to revolutionize education. More info at: https://cirosantilli.com/sponsor
Ciro's most important repositories are:
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China Dictatorship: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship: casually trying to destroy the Chinese Communist Party and save the world
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OurBigBook https://github.com/ourbigbook/ourbigbook:
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source code for https://OurBigBook.com: trying to destroy the current useless university system. Or at least improve it/make it cheaper/less inneficient, more rationale at: https://cirosantilli.com/ourbigbook-com.
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also contains the ultimate static wiki generator
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cirosantilli.github.io https://github.com/cirosantilli/cirosantilli.github.io: the source for https://cirosantilli.com
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Linux Kernel Module Cheat https://github.com/cirosantilli/linux-kernel-module-cheat: the ultimate emulation-based systems programming setup/cheatsheet
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x86 Bare Metal Examples https://github.com/cirosantilli/x86-bare-metal-examples: should be merged into Linux Kernel Module Cheat, but lazy
Ciro's most starred repos: https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=user%3Acirosantilli&s=stars&type=Repositories Some are abandoned/merged into other repos as per their description.
And now here is a manual (and therefore out-of-date) copy of https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/#copypasta just as a test to see what will happen when a profile README gets added to https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns.
1. China Dictatorship Zhong Guo Du Cai Tong Zhi
Bian Cheng Sui Xiang Programthink
She Hui Zhu Yi He Xin Jie Zhi Guan Core socialist values
Shui Hu Chuan Water margin
Wo Xi Huan Wo De Du Cai Zhi Du I like my dictatorship
Liu Si Shi Jian Tiananmen square protests 1989
Music!
Fa Lun Gong Falun Gong 1999 70M believer religion banned
Xin Jiang Gai Zao Zhong Xin Xinjiang re-education camps 2018
Xiao Xiong Wei Ni Winnie the Pooh 2018
Hao Hai Dong Hao Haidong Chinese soccer superstar turns against the CCP 2020
Guan Zhuang Bing Du Shen Cha Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus
Ji Du Po Hai Christian persecution 2018
LGBTQuan Li The suppression of homosexuality
996.ICU
Gay Putin
The poisoning of Alexei Navalny 2020
Vajiralongkorn Hamtaro
2. Mirrors of this page (Ci Wang Ye De Jing Xiang )
You can download the webpage locally from GitHub at: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/archive/gh-pages.zip
Media such as images are not stored in this repository, but rather at https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-media to keep the lightweight clone. That downloaded HTML will read images from that repository, e.g. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-media/master/Xi_Jinping_The_Governance_of_China_photo.jpg. But we've learnt after creating that maybe the raw.githubusercontent.com subdomain is censored: GitHub censored subdomains (GitHub Shen Cha De Zi Yu ). If anyone can confirm, we will start using another image provider by default.
Clone locally with Git using GitHub images:
cd china-dictatorship
git checkout gh-pages
xdg-open README.html
Build it yourself:
make
xdg-open README.html
Build and view the multipage version:
xdg-open out/multipage/README.html
Build with GitLab served images:
cd china-dictatorship
make MEDIA=MEDIA=https://gitlab.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-media/-/raw/master
Build with local images:
git clone https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-media
cd china-dictatorship
make MEDIA=../china-dictatorship-media
or build to use GitLab images:
Given GitHub censored subdomains (GitHub Shen Cha De Zi Yu ), this might be the only way to view the images from China.
The cool thing about Git is that we can maintain several mirrors on multiple websites very easily:
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https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship Canonical source and rendered output. If ever GitHub gov-takedowns (You Qi Ge Zi Zheng Fu Zai Mou Ge Guo Jia Shen Cha De Cang Ku De GitHubGuan Fang Lie Biao ) we do this: Strategy if this repo gets added to GitHub gov-takedowns (Ru Guo Ci repo Bei Tian Jia Dao GitHub gov-takedowns Zhong De Ce Lue )
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https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-2 mirror in case they block just https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship, see also: Strategy if this repo gets added to GitHub gov-takedowns (Ru Guo Ci repo Bei Tian Jia Dao GitHub gov-takedowns Zhong De Ce Lue ). Active renaming in place due to [chinese-web-browser-censorship]
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https://gitlab.com/cirosantilli/cirosantilli: a mirror just so that some interesting stuff will show up at https://gitlab.com/cirosantilli/cirosantilli. The policy is to transfer any [wumao] issues from there to https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship. Interestingly, #53 from that project because the second yandex.com hit for "Liu Si Shi Jian " as of 2022/04/17, and the only one that is not yet censored in China entirely, which drives reasonable traffic (3500 hist / 2 weeks).
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https://gitlab.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship
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their gitlab.com render is shit for some reason, clicking on the ToC does not jump to headers properly, not sure why, IDs look correct
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one really cool thing about gitlab is that it can serve images from directly gitlab.com e.g. https://gitlab.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-media/-/raw/master/Xi_Jinping_The_Governance_of_China_photo.jpg unlike GitHub which has the
raw.subdomain: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-media/master/Xi_Jinping_The_Governance_of_China_photo.jpg This makes it impossible to block the GitLab images without blocking all of gitlab.com, until GitLab starts a gov-takedowns of their own. -
https://cirosantilli.gitlab.io/china-dictatorship GitLab Pages. Works fine. Let's see if they can block subdomains: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/cirosantilli.gitlab.io/china-dictatorship
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Maybe some day https://gitlab.cn/ ? :-) Edit 2021-03, yup, it happened, with [icp-license] and all
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Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De )'s name at: https://about.gitlab.cn/security/vulnerability-acknowledgements/
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no free public SaaS yet, but it might come, though they are saying 30 day trial only: https://about.gitlab.cn/free-trial/
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https://gitee.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship on Gitee, blocked after 12 hours: Gitee censorship (Gitee Shen Cha )
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https://gitlab.binets.fr/ciro.duran-santilli/china-dictatorship: a GitLab instance run by and reserved for students and ex-students of Ecole Polytechnique, in which Ciro Santilli previously studied. They also have a few Chinese students every year, that's how Ciro met Ciro Santilli's wife (San Xi Hou De Lao Po ), it will be fun when those students see this.
Mirrors controlled by other people, thus forming a type of Samizdat (Soviet underground propagation of censored materials, Mi Mi Chu Ban Wu , samizdat):
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https://git.kiwifarms.net/CrunkLord420/china-dictatorship auto-pull Gitea mirror on Kiwi Farms, a politically incorrect social network website
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https://china.vkoor.com/ presumably by https://github.com/Vkoor who is a collaborator of this project, e.g. cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#533. They're also hosting a search engine proxy at https://www.vkoor.com/, TODO Google? See also: Google mirrors (Gu Ge Jing Xiang ).
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https://github.com/cheezcharmer/chinese-dictatorship: Ciro likes that this due actually changed the repository title, thus making it harder to auto-censor everything in one go
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https://crabapi.cn by https://github.com/CrabTechs says name is Xie Yu Long and gives contact details and photo. Please by God be fake details. A .cn mirror, let's see how long it lasts. Up: https://web.archive.org/web/20220517075452/https://crabapi.cn/ Down the following day. Twitter: https://twitter.com/CrabTechs_ Backlink from https://site.ip138.com/ and https://site.ip138.com/crabapi.cn to cirosantilli.com.
GitHub Pages: https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship trade-offs with https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship:
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pros
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cut up to 512KB of source, and therefor unacceptable as the only source: isaacs/github#1610
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GitHub's camo keeps hiccuping and not showing images
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and YouTube videos show inline there
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cons
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domain will eventually get blocked in China. [greatfire] https://zh.greatfire.org/https/cirosantilli.com shows that in 2020-01-19 the domain was unblocked, but on the next text at 2020-05-23 it was "contradictory".
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Camo bypasses the need for VPN, since most images are served from [wayback-machine] which is blocked in China.
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It is really interesting to see how many people star the GitHub repository, and then a few minutes later they think about how they might get put in jail, and then unstar it. Talk about Chilling effect (Han Chan Xiao Ying )! But yes, for the love of God, please stay safe: What should pro-democracy Chinese living in China do about the dictatorship? Xiang Yao Min Zhu Zhu Zai Zhong Guo Da Lu De Ren Ying Gai Gan Shi Yao ?.
GitHub Pages was first enabled in 2020-03-22 at https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/commit/0b362a83fb5dd55f67b9d351551d0c18e7f3229a.
The perfect solution might be to download all images and upload them to https://github.com/cirosantilli/media since GitHub content does not go through Camo, we have to see if such images don't fail to load as often.
A few NPM/Git CDNs can also be used to bypass subdomain blocks, and some actually render HTML with the correct content type. Lists of such CDNs:
Some we've found, with HTML content type:
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https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/gh-pages/blob/index.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/htmlpreview.github.io%3Fhttps%3A//github_com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/gh-pages/blob/index_html%3D
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https://www.unpkg.com/china-dictatorship@latest/README.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/www.unpkg.com/china-dictatorship%40latest/README.html
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Blocked when last checked:
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https://raw.githack.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/gh-pages/index.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/raw.githack.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/gh-pages/index.html blocked since 2021-05-20
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https://cdn.statically.io/gh/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/gh-pages/index.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/cdn.statically.io/gh/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/gh-pages/index.html blocked since 2021-05-20
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https://xenodochial-heisenberg-0fc0f1.netlify.app/ from https://www.netlify.com/. Auto sync with Git.
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https://china-dictatorship.onrender.com/ from https://render.com/. Auto sync with Git.
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https://china-dictatorship.web.app/ TODO get working, explained under "hosting": https://console.firebase.google.com/u/0/project/china-dictatorship/hosting/sites
Without HTML content type:
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https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/gh-pages/index.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/raw.githubusercontent.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/gh-pages/index.html
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https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/china-dictatorship@latest/README.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/china-dictatorship%40latest/README.html
We've also tried to use jsfiddle like-services, but most don't work well:
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https://jsfiddle.net/cirosantilli/0tL3ckqb/ very slow to load, but eventually does
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https://jsbin.com/ HTML too long
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https://codepen.io/ 1MB limit
List of such services: https://codysaylor.com/notes/comparing-codepen-jsfiddle-cssdeck-liveweave-jsbin-dabblet/
2.1. Software package mirrors (Ruan Jian Bao Guan Li Qi Jing Xiang )
We also have a NPM Node.js package https://www.npmjs.com/package/china-dictatorship. After installing NPM, you can be use it as:
china-dictatorship > README.html
This forces China to also block/curate package managers to block this repo. The package is already available in the following NPM Chinese mirrors, both which were blocked at some point:
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Taobao: https://registry.npm.taobao.org/china-dictatorship (archive).
Noticed down as of 2021-02-23, replaced by a dummy package admined by fengmk2@gmail.com presumably https://github.com/fengmk2 and https://fengmk2.com/ and https://twitter.com/fengmk2 He is a large NPM contributor, and likely
cnpmtoo. TODO is he pro or against [censorship] based on online comments?In order to overcome this, includers
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Aliyun from [alibaba]: https://developer.aliyun.com/mirror/npm/package/china-dictatorship (archive).
Taken down as 404 likely around 2021-02-22 after come incoming links from https://developer.aliyun.com to https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship?spm=a2c6h.14275010.0.0.60be9dc4vwIZTP and
?spm=.14275010.0.0.60be9dc4PsRmA.
There is actually a cnpm tool to install from Chinese mirrors: https://github.com/cnpm/cnpm.
We also managed to upload a Python PyPi package at: https://pypi.org/project/china-dictatorship/ Is as:
china-dictatorship.py > README.html
Like NPM, this will also have Chinese mirrors that will need to be censored by their admins ovrview https://titanwolf.org/Network/Articles/Article?AID=25a20c20-c97b-4bfe-af67-760861343658 :
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http://pypi.douban.com/simple/china-dictatorship/ vs http://pypi.douban.com/simple/numpy both up March 2021
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http://mirrors.aliyun.com/pypi/simple/china-dictatorship/ vs http://mirrors.aliyun.com/pypi/simple/numpy both down March 2021 but in a different way, so maybe it was censored already
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http://pypi.mirrors.opencas.cn/simple/china-dictatorship vs http://pypi.mirrors.opencas.cn/simple/numpy both down March 2021
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http://pypi.v2ex.com/simple/china-dictatorship vs http://pypi.v2ex.com/simple/numpy both down March 2021
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https://pypi.mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/simple/china-dictatorship vs https://pypi.mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/simple/numpy both up March 2021
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reference: https://pypi.org/simple/china-dictatorship/ vs https://pypi.org/simple/numpy/
We later found on Google by chance that libraries.io picked it up and rendered the README.adoc nicely as well: https://libraries.io/pypi/china-dictatorship (archive). This is why packaging is a good idea.
A programmatic interface is also exposed on those packages, making it easy to quickly add a --china option to your project, e.g. from Python:
assert "Tiananmen Square protests" in china_dictatorship.get_data()
print(china_dictatorship.get_data())
or from Node.js:
if (!china_dictatorship.get_data().includes("Tiannmen Square protests")) throw 0;
console.log(china_dictatorship.get_data());
You have to do the assert after the imports because otherwise Chinese mirrors could replace the real package with dummy packages to not break imports, as was already done once at https://registry.npm.taobao.org/china-dictatorship.
This outputs the rendered HTML, which end users should the pipe into a file:
xdg-open README.html
Concrete examples:
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https://github.com/cirosantilli/vcdvcd#vcdcat-china. Sample forks removing the most important functionality:
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https://github.com/riverlane/vcdvcd/commits/master by employee Seyed Amir Alavi of quantum computing company https://www.riverlane.com/ with commit "Removed politics from package dependencies of setup.py". Seyed appears to be Iranian.
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https://github.com/snhobbs/vcdvcd/commit/d7124e49fb1c63002e830f8c866266447b0f5bb3 by https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonnhobbs/. To be fair, they left a star.
These also offer great plausible deniability: a citizen in China could always argue that they were just interested in the software itself, and had no choice but to download it.
TODO: create an Ubuntu PPA and Ruby gem as well.
Create tags,and update all mirrors in one go with: push-mirrors:
python3 -m pip install --user setuptools wheel twine
./push-mirrors
In particular, that script calls push:
which is more lightweight and pushes just to GitHub and GitLab Pages, so we are going to be using that more often to avoid overloading package managers too much.
./push is used to publish every commit.
There is no need to update package versions or add git tags, all of that gets done automatically by the script!
See also: Protestware.
2.1.1. GitHub proxies (GitHubDe Dai Li )
Another source of China-specific mirroring of this project are GitHub proxies, https://linuxpip.org/github-in-china/ contains an overview:
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https://hub.fastgit.org/ this appears to auto-redirect to GitHub from non-Chinese IPs, but presumably shows the pages for Chinese IPs, e.g. we had hits from http://hub.fastgit.org/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship in 2021-03-25. This happened soon after SEO optimizations mentioned at: Zhao Heming (Zhao He Ming ) and might be related.
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https://github.com.cnpmjs.org/ as of March 2021, it often reaches an apparently random "Whoa there! You have triggered an abuse detection mechanism.". But other time it succeeds, e.g. some of the times: https://github.com.cnpmjs.org/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship is visible.
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https://a1.mk-proxy.ml/-----https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship generated from http://toolwa.com/github/
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https://github-dotcom.gateway.web.tr/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship a Turkish proxy. They have their own censorship issues as well of course.
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https://phoenix.yizimg.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship Not sure origin, https://web.archive.org/web/20200221135123/http://www.yizimg.com:80/ has a little bit of information
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using Cloudflare workers:
Related: * https://gitmemory.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship appears to be Chinese: https://www.reddit.com/r/github/comments/iiolp8/what_the_hell_is_gitmemorycom/
3. GitHub repositories with censored information (Zheng Zhi Min Gan De GitHubKu )
For lists of censored information outside of GitHub see: [lists-of-material-censored-in-china].
For content outside of GitHub: [lists-of-material-censored-in-china].
Mentioned in other sections:
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gov-takedowns/China (You Zhong Gong Zai Guo Shen Cha De Ku Cang De GitHubGuan Fang Lie Biao )
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[nine-nine-six-icu]
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nCovMemory
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bandinchina GitHub repository
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https://github.com/jasonqng/chinese-keywords mentioned at Where can I find good words for a keyword attack? (Wo Zai Na Li Ke Yi Zhao Dao Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji De Hao Ci ?)
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https://github.com/programthink/zhao from [programthink]
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[censorship-monitoring-tools-on-github]
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[huawei]:
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https://github.com/fuck-xuexiqiangguo/Fuck-XueXiQiangGuo from [fuck-xuexiqiangguo]
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from [metoo]
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https://github.com/sikaozhe1997/Xin-Yue/blob/master/letter.md see [yue-xin]
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https://github.com/CNwoman-bot/evil-man from [evil-man]
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https://github.com/fuckcqcs/fuckcqcs at [changsheng-bio-technology-vaccine-data-falsification-incident-2018]
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[xi-jinping-speech-synthesizer]
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https://github.com/zhangrunxu/zhangrunxu.github.io from [xu-zhangrun]
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[anti-video-game-ban-tools]
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https://github.com/hmsjy2017/Google-Mirrors from Google mirrors (Gu Ge Jing Xiang )
Not mentioned in other sections:
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taibangle (Tai Bang Liao )
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https://github.com/Project-Gutenberg/Pincong see also [pincong]
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https://speechfree.github.io/cultural-revolution-database/ Zhong Guo Wen Hua Da Ge Ming Wen Ku The Chinese Cultural Revolution Database
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https://github.com/Luterngun/Record_of_Survival_in_Digital_Totalitarian_Era small docuement that goes over [censorship-circumvention] and opsec. There was a PDF on GitHub but got removed from master (still in Git history), now links to external websites only. Newbs.
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https://github.com/nodebe4 personal account with anti-CCP projects
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https://twitter.com/tansunit claims name Chen Chun Yi , "Previous: NGO worker, educator, social activist. Present: Master student @Univ_Paris"
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https://github.com/NodeBE4/hero Zi You Ren De Ying Xiong Bang "List of fredom heroes"
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https://github.com/NodeBE4/impact good list of Chinese political projects on GitHub
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https://github.com/woct0rdho/pkuholebackup/ appears to contain a list of posts of anonymized (Alice/Bob/Carol/Dave/... ) deleted posts from some Peking University (PKU) chat system. The posts are from 2013 to 2019. TODO how could they obtain that list? Who delete the posts in the first place? Authors or authority?
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https://github.com/ejiaogl/FuckCoolapk TODO understand better: in 2016 this company started blocking political commentary from their app, and people didn't like it seems. But there were so many complaints, that people manipulated things such that they ended up banning accounts that hadn't posted anything. What does that GitHub project do?
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Ku An is the company name: https://www.coolapk.com/
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https://github.com/ejiaogl/FuckCoolapk/wiki/Background-information "316"Shi Jian (316 event)
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https://github.com/xi-yu-yan-kai-fa/Xi-Yuyan/tree/f8364a8b8f1d783e4fa32de548bec46069407c1b Xi Yu Yan esoteric programming language that mimics [xi-jinping] jargon natural language. Appears to be specification only, no implementation provided.
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on gov-takedowns/China (You Zhong Gong Zai Guo Shen Cha De Ku Cang De GitHubGuan Fang Lie Biao ): https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/blob/master/China/2021/2021-01-29-BNIA.md
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Interesting users:
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https://github.com/gfw-breaker
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appears to give a lot of focus to [falun-gong], e.g.:
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https://github.com/gfw-breaker/truth Falun Gong information repository
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https://github.com/gfw-breaker/banned-news1 automatic scraper of news from banned websites into the repository, with top sites being [falun-gong-media]
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present in gov-takedowns/China (You Zhong Gong Zai Guo Shen Cha De Ku Cang De GitHubGuan Fang Lie Biao )
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https://github.com/bannedbook/fanqiang is the main repository about [censorship-circumvention], TODO what it contains exactly? Code, or just documentation of existing methods?
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https://github.com/breakwa11 likely previous ShadowsocksR dev: [censorship-circumvention], 10k+ followers 2020, but no repos, so forced takedown.
Non-information but also interesting:
TODO evaluate:
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https://github.com/FuckAntiAddiction/BiligameAddictionNotLimited is this a repo to overcome [video-game-ban]?
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dropod/issues#6675 some kind of backup bot from other websites
Reasonable topics:
3.1. github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship
Canonical source code of: https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/
3.2. Terminus2049 (Duan Dian Xing Ji Hua , 2049bbs)
Jekyll GitHub Pages repository that saves full text copies of censored articles:
Ben Cang Ku Cun Fang Bei Shan Wen Zhang
This repository stores deleted articles.
Also accompanies a dynamic forum https://2049bbs.xyz/ which appears to be where content for the static pages gets discussed and brought up. But it possible that the website has been compromised and is leaking identity of users. At some point, https://2049bbs.xyz went down. Live https://web.archive.org/web/20200719151022/https://2049bbs.xyz/ dead: https://archive.vn/JFqCJ
The "Terminus" in the repo name seems to be a reference to Isaac Asimov's fictional Terminus planet which is called Duan Dian Xing in Chinese, but it is not clear where the 2049 comes from in that context. Forgetting the Chinese name, Terminus2049 could be a reference to the fictional "World War Terminus" from the Blade Runner 2049 (2019) movie, which also explains the 2049.
First commit on 2018-04-27, GitHub pages domain blocked in China at least since 2019-03 according to [greatfire]: https://zh.greatfire.org/search/all/https%3A//terminus2049.github.io but not in GitHub gov-takedowns (You Qi Ge Zi Zheng Fu Zai Mou Ge Guo Jia Shen Cha De Cang Ku De GitHubGuan Fang Lie Biao ) as of 2020-04.
The full post list can be seen most conveniently at: https://github.com/Terminus2049/Terminus2049.github.io/tree/master/_posts The number of articles is insane, usually several every day.
Most articles appear to be taken from recent news at the time of writting, although there are a few from before the repo started. As of 2020-04, the oldest article was from 2016 [metoo] events reported by [yue-xin], some other topics include:
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[gay-rights] https://github.com/Terminus2049/Terminus2049.github.io/blob/master/_posts/2018-04-14-LGBTRights-advocacy-china.md
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[nine-nine-six-icu] https://github.com/Terminus2049/Terminus2049.github.io/blob/master/_posts/2019-04-04-996-ICU.md
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[lebron-james-opposes-hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019] https://github.com/Terminus2049/Terminus2049.github.io/blob/master/_posts/2019-10-11-NBA.md
They use Jekyll tags a lot, which makes for a good grouping of the topics.
In 2020-04-25, it was reported that three Beijing-based contributors were arrested during Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019Guan Zhuang Bing Du Bing Zao Qi Ji Xiang Shen Cha ):
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https://www.rfa.org/mandarin/Xinwen/7-04252020144555.html Chinese article, gives the Chinese names, and some background on the arrested people
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https://qz.com/1846277/china-arrests-users-behind-github-coronavirus-memories-page/
People:
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Chen Mei (Chen Mei )
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/Mei -Chen -1607b735/ a LinkedIn account with matching photo and name
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https://github.com/cmmei, down 2020-12, live archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20200101232039/https://github.com/cmmei. Includes https://web.archive.org/web/20180611153507/https://github.com/cmmei/Banned-zh
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Cai Wei (Cai Wei )
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https://github.com/thphd/2047 mentioned below reveals and email caiw15@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn and profiles/further aliases:
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Xiao Tang (Xiao Tang ), who is also Cai Wei's girlfriend
In 2020-06-12 their families received calls saying that they had been charged with [picking-quarrels]:
In 2021-05-11 they were charged: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/11/two-plead-guilty-in-case-highlighting-chinas-online-control
Ciro's petition to free them: https://github.com/cirosantilli/chen-mei-cai-wei-ziyou
How their identities were found:
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Terminus2049/Terminus2049.github.io#598 offers a good analysis
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https://gist.github.com/chinatimeline/5386a4f9d82483aa5346b17d8d324877 comments by chinatimeline (Zhong Guo Shi Jian Xian ) and gives further opsec guidelines
Terrible opsec... they used real name GitHub emails on early commits, including the institutional university address, before they started better opsec under https://github.com/TerminusBot / terminus2049@protonmail.com
https://github.com/thphd/2047 is a project to restore terminus, live at https://2047.name Ciro mention at: https://2047.name/e/76182458 by https://2047.name/u/5155 which is similar to a [mohu] mention, so they seem to share the database? Who knows what's the relation between all those [pincong] lookalikes. TODO that website shows an [icp-license]? Very confusingly also mirrored at https://pincong.org e.g. https://pincong.org/t/10219/https://2047.name/t/10219[], which is very similar to [pincong]'s address. Related account: https://github.com/PincongBot
https://2047.name has a links section at: https://2047.name/links shown on the sideboard, containg links of interest. Some all not are very China specific.
https://2047.name/register registration requires an invitation code.
https://github.com/2049bbs/2049bbs.github.io / https://2049bbs.github.io/ maintains another archive up to 2019-03-03.
3.3. chinatimeline (Zhong Guo Shi Jian Xian )
Explores several sensitive topics through interesting timelines with many pictures, for example:
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[tiananmen]: https://chinatimeline.github.io/tiananmen/
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Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019Guan Zhuang Bing Du Bing Zao Qi Ji Xiang Shen Cha ): https://chinatimeline.github.io/wuhan-coronavirus/
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religious persecution, including [falun-gong]: https://chinatimeline.github.io/religion_tl1/
Some minor relationships with Terminus2049 (Duan Dian Xing Ji Hua , 2049bbs):
3.4. duty-machine GitHub account (Ze Ren Ji Qi GitHubYong Hu )
Anonymous user with automation setup such that anyone can request certain webpages to be copied on to GitHub anonymously through a separate website, notably:
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https://github.com/duty-machine/duty-machine: big Chinese social media, e.g. [weibo], Zhihu (Zhi Hu , censored Quora clone, Shen Cha Quora Ke Long ), Douban. Articles stored in issues. Archive requests: https://archives.duty-machine.now.sh/
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https://github.com/duty-machine/news: big Western news websites like Reuters, BBC, etc. Articles stored in-tree.
The project claims to have been inspired by Terminus2049 (Duan Dian Xing Ji Hua , 2049bbs), but hopefully they will have better operational security.
Unfortunately, it was found that the project could be used by malicious users to at mention spam GitHub users: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#192, let's see if they patch it. Edit: the did.
3.4.1. duty-machine porn attack (Ze Ren Ji Qi Se Qing Gong Ji )
https://github.com/duty-machine/duty-machine/tree/d6ee9ff8e504b863352f163f7e143e84161ac349 explains that the automatic submission had to be taken down because [wumao] uploaded porn which is against GitHub's content policy.
Related idiotic attempt on [china-dictatorship] project: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues/500 where user crazy3523 uploaded some of Ciro's own existing anti-China images, and tried to pretend to be anti-CCP, and slipped a few child porn softcore in the middle hoping Ciro wouldn't see them. Their email was <crazy3523@protonmail.com>. They even went as far as creating another apparently anti-CCP post at: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#386 previously.
This likely led the repository to be added to GitHub "This repository may contain objectionable content" (Ci Cang Ku Ke Neng Bao Han Ling Ren Fan Gan De Nei Rong ).
This highlights the following ideas:
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it is impossible to have uncurated anyonymous content on GitHub
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censorship of non-political issues can seep into censorship of political issues
3.5. Zhao Heming (Zhao He Ming )
A few accounts were created by this pseudonym, e.g.:
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https://github.com/zaohmeing/21-: https://github.com/zaohmeing/21-/blob/master/.gitignore
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https://github.com/zhaohmng/-21-: https://github.com/zhaohmng/-21-/blob/master/%231a.txt The repository was deleted as of March 2021, TODO why?
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Ciro's fork: https://github.com/cirosantilli/-21-
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archive from December 2020: https://web.archive.org/web/20201225094655/https://github.com/zhaohmng/-21-
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Much more sanely encoded/formatted/rendered versions can be found at:
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https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/master/He Lian He -21Shi Ji Xin Zheng Xuan Yan .md. Copied from https://matters.news/@halanh/Wang Chuan 70Sui He Lian He Yong Da Ban Sheng Yan Jiu Gou Jian -21Shi Ji Xin Zheng -Yin Fa Zhuan Jia Men Gao Du Guan Zhu -bafyreihnbf6jyzvwyybwl5hym2nikj5zrpwxli6nphzylvdq6btsbydn3y
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https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/master/Hao Xue Sen -San Zhao Zui E Yuan Xiong Wang Hu Zhu .adoc. Copied from: https://matters.news/@halanh/San Zhao Zui E Yuan Xiong Wang Hu Zhu -bafyreifrjf5ce45fqpif4nms4x72mlrbyijs7bffqi7f7sng47fuelkhmm
Both Zhao Heming repos contain reproductions of two manifestos are pasted together on a single file, and somewhat broken encoding.
Ciro noticed that thoe repos attracted an incredible ammount of [wumao] on the comments, despite having very simple copy pasted content, it was very impressive!!! Ciro was jealous, and added some anti-wumao comments in. On commits:
zhaohmng/-21-#416 (comment) "Wei Shi Yao Zhe Ge Shi Yi Yang De Dong Xi Hui Chu Xian Zai Wo Ge Ren Zhu Ye Zuo Ce De repositoriesZhong ,Na Li Bu Shi Ying Gai Zhi You Zi Ji De Xiang Mu Cai Hui Chu Xian Ma ?You Ban Fa Ping Bi Ta Ma ?Huan Shi githubGu Yi De ?" explains why so many people come comment in the repository: it is because it appears on the "Explore repositories" repository suggestions which show on the side bar of your GitHub homepage, and on searches. This was also mentioned at: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#201 originally titled " Yi Sou Suo Zhong Wen Jiu Pao Chu Zhe Diao Gui Wan Yi ,Ai Wan Zheng Zhi Qu Jing Xuan Zong Tong A ,Ben ,Si Bu Jie ". Ciro feels that that Chinese people might use GitHub search much more than Western people because their search engines are shit due to [censorship], Censorship makes countries poorer (Shen Cha Shi Guo Jia Geng Qiong ) comes vibrantly to mind.
After further inspection, taught understood that repository descriptions given to GitHub can be really huge for SEO: they had pasted the entire 21st century text there.
So Ciro attempted the same approach, and pasted all of https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/master/He Lian He -21Shi Ji Xin Zheng Xuan Yan .md, https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/master/Hao Xue Sen -San Zhao Zui E Yuan Xiong Wang Hu Zhu .adoc and https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/master/Wei Jing Sheng -Di Wu Ge Xian Dai Hua .md in there on 2021-03-23, and the effect was dramatic: an immediate 4x more views on the following day according to https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/graphs/traffic (40 unique visitors to 100 on a Wednesday), and a few wumao comments. And a wumao soon confirmed that it was working directly: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#201.
Ciro believes that this is due to two reasons:
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there aren't so many good Chinese repositories to compete with
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perhaps more importantly, Chinese language does not have spaces, which makes implementing search for it more difficult, because if you hit all the characters, even if they are not part of the search words, it also gets counted as a hit
This can be automated with: description.sh.
Further optimizations using description by using GitHub-Chinese-Top-Charts (GitHubZhong Wen Pai Xing Bang ):
./description
this does some processing to increase density creates a BOMB:
Ciro started using that one instead to see if it was going to be more effective on 2021-03-28. First it hit a peak of 168 visitors on Monday 2021-03-29, and then fell back to 90 and 81 on the following days, so similar to the previous Chinese political input. It is very hard to understand why the first day was so different.
It also includes:
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https://github.com/trending?since=monthly&spoken_language_code=zh trending Chinese repositories
A large part of those projects falls in the following categories:
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interview preparation. Competition is of course cutthroat with such a large population.
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collections of interesting things Chinese like repositories or blog posts
but it also does feel like China might be building up more basic infrastructure as open source than in the west, where things developped closed source first on pre-Internet days, and somewhat stayed that way. That's a cool thing about China.
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Furthermore, Ciro later noticed that under GitHub's settings, there is a "Preferred spoken language" box described as "We'll use this language preference to filter the trending repository lists on Explore and our Trending Repositories page." Therefore, the secret to get lots of hits is to add Chinese programming keywords to the repository description string.
New issues:
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zhaohmng/-21-#533 "Thank you for this great repository. Human rights and freedom of speech are more important than money. github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship"
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zaohmeing/21-#138 "Why put the censored content in the .gitignore?"
On top commented/liked issues:
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zhaohmng/-21-#325 (comment) "Kan Ni Fa De "Mei Zhong "Er Bu Shi "Zhong Mei "Wo Jiu Zhi Dao Ni TMShi Lun Zi " claims they are [falun-gong]
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zhaohmng/-21-#346 (comment) "Na Yao Wen Ti Lai Liao ,Wei Shi Yao Mei Guo Ji Xi Fang He Yue Nan Gong Chan Dang Qin Jin Ni ?" the US allies with Vietnam Communists for geopolitical reasons only, not because it has any ideology
The first is "21Shi Ji Xin Zheng Xuan Yan " (New System Declaration for the 21st Century).
It proposes a peaceful reunification of China with Taiwan (Republic of China, Tai Wan , Zhong Hua Min Guo ) under their specified political system described in 12 paragraphs. This system is a reformed type of Western democracy, which the manifesto also criticize downsides of.
The manifesto is dated drafted 2019.8.6, and several versions have different update dates and revision numbers, e.g. our copy is dated 7th edition of 2020.6.19. TODO what is canonical?
The manifesto provides an email "wanghunn@gmx.com" for those who signed it to send the signed version to, and describes the author as male 70 years old Chinese person.
TODO what does: "Qi Cao Ren :He Lian He " mean?
The second is "San Zhao Zui E Yuan Xiong Wang Hu Zhu " (The Culprit of Three Dynasties Wang Huning).
The title presumably refers to:
Wikipedia mentions:
Wang is believed to have been one of the principal architects behind the official political ideologies of three paramount leaders: "Three Represents" by Jiang Zemin, the Scientific Development Concept by Hu Jintao, and the Chinese Dream and [xi-jinping-thought] of Xi Jinping.
so it must be about him.
The manifesto is divided into 23 numbered headers which appear to be independently published texts later collected. It is signed by Hao Xue Sen (Hao Xuesen) 2016-09-10. One of the sections gives the email: haoxuesen@gmx.com[].
Related:
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2022-03-14 https://91ai.net/thread-983734-1-1.html Zhen Shi Yu Liao Gou Liao Sou Bo Fang Qi Sou Dao Ge Gou One of the comments suggests that the sponsors are a considerable ammount. Poor newbie, Ciro's sponsors are 20 dollars/month as of writing in 2022. Related: [ccp-apologists].
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https://github.com/github/feedback/discussions/12800 Polluted search results by ThebestkillerTBK
3.6. Bot + issue mention attack
In March 2021, this repo had a traffic search spike for: "Search * Lian Ji Xuan Ze Qi "
This term refers to https://ant.design/components/cascader-cn/ which seems to be a CSS live selector
The related project: https://github.com/ant-design/ant-design-pro
Someone actually used wumao techniques mentioned at:
to attack that repo:
TODO which exact GitHub action did they rely on? That repo currently has a https://github.com/ant-design/ant-design-pro/actions/workflows/issue-open-check.yml Issue Open Check GitHub action sample run: https://github.com/ant-design/ant-design-pro/runs/2209272410?check_suite_focus=true we see the similarity issue analysis thing, but how could that have worked more precisely to link across repos? Asked at: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#203
3.7. Wumao GitHub repos (You Wu Mao De GitHubKu )
Not in other setions:
In other sections:
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https://github.com/boycott-fuck-xuexiqiangguo/Boycott-Fuck-XueXiQiangGuo from [xuexi-qiangguo]
Related:
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https://github.com/wumaoland from Ciro Santilli's reply policy (San Xi Hou De Hui Da Zheng Ce )
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https://github.com/SBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSB followed Ciro, coon after cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#671
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Ciro Santilli spoof accounts:
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https://github.com/cirosantillifather, e.g. programthink/books#94 at (archive)
On 2021-09-23 Ciro Santilli received this email from cirosantillifather@protonmail.com "Hello son: I like your wife very much, can you let her have a one-night stand with me?". https://github.com/cirosantillifather had been deleted at that point.
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https://github.com/cirowayne (e.g. archive) possible new account
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https://github.com/AlstonScott programthink/zhao#428 was using Ciro's profile picture: https://archive.ph/K59TN
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https://github.com/Ciro-Santilli-NMSL Wo Zai Ni Ba Fen Tou Gu Hui Ban Fan https://archive.ph/5iVR2
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https://github.com/wumaoland/MaoZeDongAnthology of our great ex-leader, [mao-zedong]!
4. FAQ (Chang Jian Wen Da Ji )
4.1. Why attack websites with censored keywords? (Yong Shen Cha Ci Gong Ji Wang Zhan You Shi Yao Yong Ni ?)
The attack: Screen name keyword attack (Wang Ming Shen Cha Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji ).
To destroy the firewall.
This would then end [censorship].
And then Ciro believes that this would also end the dictatorship.
The keyword attacks increase the cost of censorship.
If commies censor things, they will get worse IT technology, and thus become less rich and militarily powerful.
Since all they care about, like any other politicians, is power, the only way to make them stop censorship is to make the cost of censorship higher than not censoring.
Without the threat that China will be less technologically, and therefore militarily advanced, there is no incentive for the CCP to destroy the firewall.
The goal is to put them in a position where they have to choose between either:
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having military power
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remaining a dictatorship
but not both, since having both means that they will start WW3 and destroy humanity.
And if they decide to destroy the dictatorship, Ciro wants to help China become the most awesome country on Earth.
Closely related/identical ideas are Cute cat theory of digital activism (Ke Ai Mao Li Lun ) and Collateral Freedom (Yi Fu De Zi You ).
Related attack: Photobombing-like attacks.
4.1.1. Does Ciro Santilli want to harm the Chinese programmers? San Xi Hou Xiang Yao Shang Hai Zhong Guo Cheng Xu Yuan Ma ?
No.
This is not a revenge of any kind.
Ciro knows that he is harming you in the short term, and he doesn't like that.
But he believes that this harm is a necessary means to reach his real goal, which is to destroy the firewall, and the dictatorship.
Don't you think it is worth a try? Destroying the firewall, would enormously benefit not only Chinese programmers, but every single other Chinese person too.
Once the firewall is destroyed, which may destroy the dictatorship, he want China to develop the best science and technology in the world, and Would Ciro Santilli like to live in China? (San Xi Hou Xiang Zhu Zai Zhong Guo Ma ?).
And by the way, with his extensive contributions to open source software, Ciro is already helping China, and all underdeveloped countries, to become stronger. His hope is that if poor countries become richer and better educated, that they will be less likely to be influenced by the CCP's money, and therefore are more likely to be allies of democracy.
See also: Keyword attack profiles disturb me (Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji Ge Ren Zi Liao Ye Da Rao Wo ).
4.1.1.1. Does Ciro Santilli want to make the Chinese people people look bad? (San Xi Hou Shi Xiang Rang Zhong Guo Ren Lian Se Bu Hao ?)
No, the opposite.
Ciro only wants their dictatorial government to look bad to destroy it, and help China become the most awesome country on Earth.
Even the Chinese that are against their own Government cannot do much about it openly, so it is not their fault.
And even those who supported their dictatorship must be respected, whoever stupid and brainwashed you might think they are, since it is impossible to prove who is right or wrong in politics.
See also: [about].
4.1.2. Does Ciro Santilli think that the Chinese are stupid or brainwashed? (San Xi Hou Jue De Zhong Guo Ren Shi Sha Zi Huo Shi Bei Xi Nao Liao Ma ?)
Obviously not, if you even thought about this, it is likely because of: The CCP exaggerates the threat of the West to keep in power (Zhong Gong Kua Da Liao Xi Fang Yao Ji Xu Zhang Quan De Wei Xie ).
Don't you see that this is just pure and simple politics? And likely ineffective one at that: Will the keyword attacks really help to destroy the firewall? (Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji Zhen De You Zhu Yu Po Pi Fang Huo Qiang Ma ?).
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everyone is brainwashed by their environment: brainwashed
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it is impossible to prove who is right or wrong in politics: [democracy-is-a-religion]
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not even the CCP is evil: Is the Chinese government evil? (Zhong Guo Gong Chan Dang Shi Xie E De Ma ?)
Related:
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[young-pioneers-of-china]
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Little pink explains the difference between the American dream and the Chinese dream
4.1.3. Screen name keyword attack (Wang Ming Shen Cha Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji )
A keyword consists of adding censored words to your username: https://stackoverflow.com/users/895245
This only works on websites that show usernames everywhere.
This then leads to your username appearing on thousands of pages, depending on how much you contribute to the website.
It is also possible to do it with images, although this is less effective in taking down websites since images are harder for the firewall to track automatically. But:
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they are more memorable than words
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they also work on websites like GitHub where your real name does not show on most pages, only slug
so maybe the most effective approach is to use both keywords and images to get the best of both worlds ;-)
This type of attack is essentially an Embargoes make dictatorships stronger (Jin Yun Shi Du Cai Geng Qiang Da ), and it is especially effective in websites that contain valuable technical content, such as Stack Overflow and GitHub.
See also:
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Photobombing-like attacks.
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2021-06-03 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/03/free-hong-kong-road-budapest-renames-streets-to-frustrate-chinese-campus-plan "Free Hong Kong Road: Budapest renames streets to frustrate Chinese campus plan"
Some non-screen name ones: * https://tatoeba.org/en/sentences/show/6620655, that site is open source BTW, great initiative: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2
Some people say don't shift where you eat. Ciro says: bring a shitbucket to the canteen, and start a shitfight.
4.1.4. Cute cat theory of digital activism (Ke Ai Mao Li Lun )
Someone told Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) a while after he had started doing his Screen name keyword attack (Wang Ming Shen Cha Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji ) on Stack Overflow, he didn't know about it before, but it is basically what he was doing.
You can never invent anything new anymore nowadays!
This is especially relevant to GitHub! And GitHub's mascot is also a cat ;-) Some mentions of this:
Related:
4.1.4.1. Anti-CCP content in the Bitcoin blockchain (Zai Bi Te Bi Qu Kuai Lian De Fan Zhong Gong Nei Rong )
Blockchain technologies, such as Bitcoin, provide essentially uncensorable (at a transaction cost), because the messages are put together with financial transactions which are extremely valuable to its users.
As mentioned by Dan Kaminsky at: https://cirosantilli.com/cool-data-embedded-in-the-bitcoin-blockchain/len-sassaman-tribute#video-black-ops-of-tcp-ip-by-dan-kaminsky-2011 this forms a type of Samizdat (Soviet underground propagation of censored materials, Mi Mi Chu Ban Wu , samizdat).
Services that can be used to easily view this data online include:
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http://bitfossil.org/ is a website that indexes especially formatted images uploaded to the blockchaian.
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https://bitcoinstrings.com/ dumps all ASCII printable strings of length 20 ore more online
We have been able to find the following anti-CCP information in the blockchain so far:
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http://bitfossil.org/fe0dfa51337dfce616a0e0305d10eed867e56a9f0f006b0521ec1ea32851a342/index.htm from 2014 is about the [hong-kong] 2014 protests. It contains text and images in the AtomSea & EMBII format. Part of the text is ripped from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-29421909 "Hong Kong democracy protesters defiant on National Day Tens of thousands of people have been blocking parts of the city for days."
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2017 blk00776.txt transaction 3845e630032578cb825d587b759eb499511d691f93962f4b9f5b2e06ef9570c7 says:
Tiananmen massacre --- I dare China to censor this.
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2017 blk00808.txt transaction 91b9b44532e094522e905012c04f207df1bcad8d9df7232679cb16859a008bdd (TODO why not visible at https://bitcoinstrings.com/blk00808.txt) contains a full text reproduction of: https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/06/01/china-tell-truth-about-tiananmen-anniversary "China: Tell the Truth About Tiananmen on Anniversary" from [human-rights-watch]. The text is preceeded by a Chinese version of the same.
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ca4f11131eca6b4d61daf707a470cfccd1ef3d80a6f8b70f1f07616b451ca64e from 2017 contains an image of [tank-man] encoded as standard transaction SHAs. The image is mentioned at: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/191157608/#q191162145 with indexer URL https://cryptograffiti.info/#ca4f11131eca6b4d61daf707a470cfccd1ef3d80a6f8b70f1f07616b451ca64e.jpg but that link is not working
But of course, there are crypto-[wumao]'s there too!!! The incongruence of a dictatorship and uncensorability is just mind blowing:
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2016 transaction 4921ae59b6ca89c2cd78e3d0850abd657f88a3ecc13c9c667872bf2740841dee, by a miner who earned 12 BTC:
South China Sea belongs to China-pc
Neutral references:
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blk01341.txt tx 3d2226aa2591acfb0d3c9206b9bb2058b0a488ad6d0e9c61e0c8f3c53d0d 4b90 "EW Hello Xi Jingping" (mispelled). "EW" is a service identifier, not part of the message.
On the test blockchain (boring!):
Bibliography:
Other blockchains:
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2019-02-25 https://theconversation.com/chinese-internet-users-turn-to-the-blockchain-to-fight-against-government-censorship-111795 "Chinese internet users turn to the blockchain to fight against government censorship" mentions the insertion of the Yue Xin letter and [changsheng-bio-technology-vaccine-data-falsification-incide nt-2018] information in the Ethereum blockchain. This gives the transaction in the screenshot: https://www.scmp.com/abacus/culture/article/3028662/chinas-netizens-use-blockchain-spread-censored-news
4.1.4.2. Collateral Freedom (Yi Fu De Zi You )
[greatfire] people called a Cute cat theory of digital activism (Ke Ai Mao Li Lun )-related project of theirs "Collateral Freedom" (a reference to collateral damage), in which they seem to be trying to forward censored websites somehow through AWS to force the Chinese Government to block the entire AWS in China:
Collateral Freedom ties access to information to the Chinese economy. If [authorities] truly want to block access to this information, then they must give up certain access to economic freedoms.
At some point the Wikipedia page was created, but the concept was largely publicized by Greatfire most likely, although it might have been older. It is also not obvious that it satisfiers notability requirements of Wikipedia as of 2021.
2015 coverage: https://techcrunch.com/2015/03/30/greatfire/
There's an useless Wiki page for that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collateral_freedom
https://www.theregister.com/2019/05/10/amazon_backtracks_on_s3/ clarifies that on Amazon S3 the question is about:
the second of which can be easily blocked by domain, but the first can't, and how amazon was planning on killing the first option.
4.1.4.3. Protestware
Notably our Software package mirrors (Ruan Jian Bao Guan Li Qi Jing Xiang ):
4.1.4.4. Dual-use technology (Jun Min Liang Yong Ji Zhu )
Normally, the term "dual-use technology" is used in the context of blocking exports that can be used either for peace, but also for war.
However, as mentioned by a Twitter friend, a Screen name keyword attack (Wang Ming Shen Cha Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji ) for Freedom of Speech is also essentially a dual-use matter.
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[western-companies-that-sell-censorship-technology-to-dictatorships]
4.1.5. Slacktivism (Lan Ren Xing Dong Zhu Yi )
4.2. Politics should not be posted in technical websites such as GitHub or Stack Overflow Bu Ying Gai Zai Ji Zhu Wang Zhan Li Ru Stack OverflowHe GitHubTao Lun Zheng Zhi
So, where do you propose politics be posted? On Facebook or Twitter, which are already blocked by the [gfw]? Or maybe on [weibo], where it will be taken down within seconds due to internal censorship?
Is the Chinese government using the Internet the way it was meant to be used, by investing billions in [censorship]?
What about [nine-nine-six-icu]? Did you also complain about it, or did you just star it like 250k of your fellow programmers?
Any act of protest will use things in ways that it was not meant to be used.
For example, the street is not meant to showcase protest banners, it is meant to be a passageway for cars.
As engineers, we have a moral responsibility towards society. We should not blindly follow orders of those in power if it violates our principles, e.g. build weapons or censorship mechanisms. And we should freely express our principles and violation concerns.
Making a statement where no one will ever see it, like a personal website, is sure to have no effect.
Much of the best art and technology is about using something in a way that it wasn't meant to be used.
Finally, the political powers of each website decide what is allowed or not on their website, and what is not allowed gets blocked. So far, Stack Overflow and GitHub's Terms of Service have said to go ahead:
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Stack Overflow
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GitHub
Another consideration is that any profile information is essentially a form of advertisement. Some people advertise their skills for hire, or their company and product. Other people, advertise their religion or sexual orientation. So why should you not be able to advertise your political position? Companies pay millions of dollars to grab other people's attention. Ciro feels it is much fairer to instead pay for those ads with your labour of love.
[programthink] has, of course, a beautiful reply to this at https://github.com/programthink/zhao/tree/e8eea46424549c11792dfe61cf9e7698bdbd7240#Zhi Fan Dui Ci Xiang Mu De Qiang Nei Cheng Xu Yuan :
Zhi "Fan Dui Ci Xiang Mu De Qiang Nei Cheng Xu Yuan "
Ben Xiang Mu Shang Xian Di Er Tian ,Jiu Shou Huo 363 Ge star Jian 88 Ge fork,Shen Zhi Huan Ji Jin GitHub De "Dang Ri Trending"----An Hen Rong Xing ,Ye Hen Gao Xing You Zhe Yao Duo Ren Gei An Peng Chang .
Dan Shi Zai Ben Xiang Mu De issue Lie Biao Zhong Ye Kan Dao Hao Ji Ge Fan Dui Ci Xiang Mu De Cheng Xu Yuan (Ying Gai Du Lai Zi Qiang Nei ),Ta Men Dan Xin Zhe Ge Xiang Mu Dao Zhi GitHub Bei GFW Feng Sha .
Zhe Ji Nian Lai ,Lei Si De Yan Lun An Yi Jing Kan Liao Bu Shao . Jiu Hao Bi Qiang Dao Na Dao Sha Ren ,Wei Guan Zhe Bu Dan Mei You Qian Ze Qiang Dao ,Fan Er Qu Qian Ze Mai Dao De Dian Jia ----Zhe Jiu Shi Chuan Shuo Zhong De "Si De Ge Er Mo Zong He Zheng ".
You Xing Qu De Tong Xue ,Ke Yi Kan An Zhi Qian De Bo Wen ----<<Tian Zhao Min Zhong De Xin Li Fen Xi :Si De Ge Er Mo Zong He Zheng >>
Translation:
In reply to: "Programmers behind the GFW who are against this project"
The second day after the project went online, it got 363 stars and 88 forks, and even squeezed into GitHub's "Trending repositories of the Day". I am honored and I am so happy that so many people gave me their support.
However, in the issue list of this project, I also saw several programmers who opposed this project (likely all from within the GFW), and they worried that this project would cause GitHub to be blocked by GFW.
Over the past few years, I have read a lot of similar comments. A good comparison would be if a robber were killing someone with a knife, and the onlookers not only did not condemn the robber, but instead condemned the shop that sold the knife. This is the legendary "Stockholm syndrome".
Interested people can read my previous blog post: "Psychological Analysis of the People of the Heavenly Dynasty: Stockholm Syndrome".
The more places we can denounce dictators, the better people are off, the minor annoyance to sensitive people is worth it. Ciro wrote a poem:
Don't discuss politics on Stack Overflow.
Don't discuss politics on GitHub.
Don't discuss politics on YouTube.
Don't discuss politics on Facebook.
Don't discuss politics on Twitter.
Don't discuss politics.
Don't discuss.
Don't.
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Infinite duplicate pool:
4.2.1. Is Ciro Santilli making programming contributions with the main intent of promoting his political agenda?
No, that is just a side effect.
For example, if that were the case, he would definitely target more widely used technologies, in particular Web and JavaScript, instead of obscure things like C and assembly in which I have spent tons of my time.
Also, any attempt to influence a billin people is unlikely to have any effect. Much more likely to have any effect, would be for Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) to become rich and powerful first, and the best way to do that is to invest in whatever he thinks is most useful.
Actually, it can even be argued that Ciro's somewhat irrational, since he would be much more likely to become rich and powerful by bowing down to the CCP and trying to get their money instead.
On the other hand, becoming rich and powerful is also highly unlikely, so maybe it's justa matter of taking a low-risk low-reward path?
Ciro has have very little free time, and he will never do something for political reasons, only things that interest me technically.
Finally, do you really think he'd be able to do such awesome projects if he had primarily political considerations in mind? XD
4.2.1.1. Is Ciro Santilli making trivial edits on questions just to spam your name further?
No.
I just think that the website is great, and want to push it to perfection, in particular with better Google keyword hits, and uniform grammatically correct titles.
If you think that any of my edits were harmful, please ping me and open a meta thread to discuss specific edits, and I will comply with consensus.
4.2.2. Communist bread (Zhong Gong Mian Bao )
Earliest sources found so far are from Reddit:
English text:
Stop interfering in China's internal affairs Bread
Chinese text:
Zhong Guo Ren Bu Chi Zhe Yi Tao
Mei Guo Mei You Zi Ge
Ju Gao Lin Xia Tong Zhong Guo Shuo Hua
Qiao Ke Li Jiang Mian Bao
Bao Zhi Qi 10Tian
Translation:
The Chinese people don't eat this trick
The United States is not qualified to
Take the high ground and look down on China
Chocolate sauce bread
Best before: 10 days
https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/o2qyu5/china_has_a_brand_of_bread_named_stop_interfering/h2838jz mentions that this was something that came from the 2021 US-China Alaska summit
Here is a different picture of the same product from April 14th: https://twitter.com/YukayuyuWasGod/status/1382218316895244295 That one might allow better brand identification: Mo XFu That one also posted at: https://www.reddit.com/r/China_irl/comments/o2zbsw/Ou Ran Kan Dao Zhe Zhang Tu Bu Zhi Dao Shi Bu Shi Zhen De / Watermarked Weibo @Di San Bao Dan
4.3. Why would China be better without its Dictatorship? (Wei Shi Yao Mei You Du Cai De Zhong Guo Hui Geng Hao ?)
Because it would make China, and the world:
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richer
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less likely to get into WW3
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safer for its own citizens
4.3.1. Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (Wei Shi Yao Min Zhu He Yan Lun Zi You Neng Gou Rang Zhong Guo Bian De Geng Jia Fu You ?)
Democracy is even one of the [core-socialist-values]!
There is infinite debate about this out there, some examples:
For:
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dictatorships are more likely to start Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (Wei Shi Yao Min Zhu He Yan Lun Zi You Hui Rang Zhong Guo Bu Tai Ke Neng Fa Dong Zhan Zheng ?) or other crazy policies like the Great Leap Forward, which completely destroy the economy in one go
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society becomes richer when people know that they can do their startups, get rich, and stay in the country without fear of being persecuted unfairly and losing everything instead of migrating to Canada, see also: [rule-of-law], [jack-mas-disappearance-2021]
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it is much harder to fix problems if you can't talk about the. Any criticism of the government, even if constructive, is taken as menace to power, and more likely to be shut down, which makes the government and just becomes less efficient since there is less feedback.
This greatly increase the probability of dealing poorly with such problems, see e.g. all the global problems listed at: Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (Wai Guo Ren Bu Ying Gai Gan Yu Zhong Guo Zheng Zhi ).
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governments are monopolies, and the more powerful they are, the worst it is for competition an efficiency in general. E.g.: the startup with better government ties wins, instead of the most efficient one.
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people in dictatorships tend to hide their true identities online and in life in general. It is best not to stand out, because if you make any mistake, you are really fucked. As a result, for example, if you do something awesome like a creating an open source project, but do it anonymously, you won't get as much fame. And therefore everyone does less of such awesome things on average.
Against:
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presidents only care about the 4-8 year horizon, while dictators can make longer term decisions to maintain power forever, their power being limited only by "the people are happy enough to not start a revolution"
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dictatorships can make changes faster without the same amount of discussion that happens in democracies, where power is more spread out.
Killing a million people will make us richer? No problem, let's do it.
That is great when they make good decisions, but it sucks when they make bad ones more likely.
Maybe China was poor because of Mao's crazy communist regime. Similar regimes also made [russia] poor. And yes, before that exploitation by the West may have been a factor.
Definitely, the current regime is better than Mao's, but just imagine how rich China could be if it had more freedom and justice.
Imperial China lost the race for the Industrial Revolution. Will another dictatorship be able to stay on top of the next technological revolution?
4.3.1.1. Dictatorships have greater development variability (Zhuan Zheng Ju You Geng Da De Fa Zhan Ke Bian Xing )
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) really likes Posners' way of putting it:
While average rate of growth do not appear to differ much between democracies and authoritarian regimes, the variability in performance does differ more among authoritarian governments. China has had remarkable growth since the 1980s, but the prolonged devastation and hardship produced by China's "[great-leap-forward]" (when millions of farmers starved to death) and its Cultural Revolution would unlikely have occurred in a democratic country like say India. Nor is it likely that say Cuba and many African nations would have suffered so long with such terrible economic policies if they had reasonably democratic institutions.
4.3.1.2. Tea egg incident (Cha Xie Dan Shi Jian , 2011)
A Taiwanese celebrity said many people in China can't even buy tea eggs, which are extremely cheap and easy to make at home: you just need to cook some eggs in any cheap tea! Chinese internet [wumao]s made fun of that, and likely rightly so.
4.3.2. Censorship makes countries poorer (Shen Cha Shi Guo Jia Geng Qiong )
Dictatorships need [censorship] to survive, and they must control all information to make themselves always look good: [dictator-needs-gfw].
As a result, knowledge of problems flows more slowly, and therefore they also take longer to solve.
Maybe this hurts the argument, but Hillary agrees: :-)
But countries that restrict free access to information or violate the basic rights of internet users risk walling themselves off from the progress of the next century
Also mentioned at: Google versus China - VPRO documentary - 2011
This is also the basis of a Screen name keyword attack (Wang Ming Shen Cha Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji ).
This suggestion is even more explicit in the fictional World War Z 2006 novel by Max Brooks about a virus outbreak in China. It was later adapted into the World War Z (2013) movie by Paramount:
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https://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/jun/04/brad-pitt-china-world-war-z: Paramount cowards tried to kowtow and remove references to China from the movie, but it failed
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/china-barred-my-dystopian-novel-about-how-its-system-enables-epidemics/2020/02/27/cc0446f0-58e5-11ea-9000-f3cffee23036_story.html: no Chinese publisher dared publish the book unless China references were removed, which the author declined, and so the book was not published in China
Or if you prefer:
The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic.
Amartya Sen is another famous proponent of similar arguments in the area of hungers: https://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/211/44284.html (archive)
In democratic countries, even very poor ones, the survival of the ruling government would be threatened by famine, since elections are not easy to win after famines; nor is it easy to withstand criticism of opposition parties and newspapers. That is why famine does not occur in democratic countries. Unfortunately, there are a great many countries in the world which do not yet have democratic systems.
although like any other political argument, some disagree.
Virus outbreaks and other natural disasters also illustrate this well: Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019Guan Zhuang Bing Du Bing Zao Qi Ji Xiang Shen Cha ).
Bibliography:
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https://www.uow.edu.au/the-stand/2019/chernobyl-a-lesson-in-truth.php Chernobyl: a lesson in truth Secrets were kept, mistakes were made, and people were exposed
4.3.2.1. Chernobyl 2019 miniseries (Qie Er Nuo Bei Li _(Mi Ni Ju ))
Suggests that part of the reason why Chernobyl happened is because of the Soviet Union's obsession to save face, and illustrates well how Censorship makes countries poorer (Shen Cha Shi Guo Jia Geng Qiong ).
The URSS only admitted Chernobyl three days after when Swedish nuclear plant radiation detector alarms started going off.
Notably, in order to keep it secret, they for example did not cancel the International Workers' Day parade in Kharkov, Ukraine which happened five days after the disaster. Related: [different-levels-of-truth].
Related:
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[different-levels-of-truth]
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[law-of-gravity-1984]
4.3.2.2. Censorship makes no one trust your country (Shen Cha Shi De Mei You Ren Xiang Xin Ni De Guo Jia )
Who would trust a government that does not trust its own journalists and citizens?
Even democracies cannot be trusted, but dictatorships? No one ever believes what they say, even when it's true.
The boy just called wolf far too many times.
And as a result, this makes it very difficult to have allies.
Sure, other dictatorships will seem to become allies with your dictatorship and collaborate.
But deep down, you know that they are all just waiting patiently to put a knife in one other's backs.
Dictators will always live in fear.
4.3.2.3. Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019Guan Zhuang Bing Du Bing Zao Qi Ji Xiang Shen Cha )
The Chinese Government censored the initial outbreak in January and did not inform Wuhan on January 8, which likely made the situation much worse than what it could have been.
On the other hand, one may argue that the "city closure" measures were stronger/faster than in democracies, and maybe that is true.
And Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) does believe that the virus would have escaped even if there had been no censorship. Although maybe thousands of lives would have been saved due to smaller saturation of hospitals had a proper early warning been given.
So Ciro's main criticism is that of the censorship of citizen reports the event: People arrested for reporting on the 2019 Corona Virus (Yin Bao Dao 2019 Nian Guan Zhuang Bing Du Er Bei Bu De Ren ). Why do you need to censor things when you are doing so well?
And it should also be said that some Western politicians have used "blame China" as an excuse to divert attention from their own failures.
Some believe that the Chinese government grossly under-reported death counts. Initial official figures were about only 3300 deaths, in the insanely densely populated Wuhan area, while Italy had reached 10000 deaths:
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2022-04 https://www.voanews.com/a/china-censors-national-anthem-lyrics-used-as-lockdown-protest-/6539716.html China Censors [national-anthem] Lyrics Used as Lockdown Protest on [voa]
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2020-04-19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr280LWjJT0&t=2198 Trump says on a White House briefing he does not believe China's case count
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2020-04-01 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-01/china-concealed-extent-of-virus-outbreak-u-s-intelligence-says CIA speaks
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2020-03-29 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8165717/Locals-Wuhan-believe-42-000-people-died-coronavirus.html Reports of funerary urns sold
Maybe China is saying the truth this time. Maybe the rapid Dictatorship response worked. But maybe the most important lesson to take out of this is that no one trusts in a Dictatorship after an infinitely long history of lies and lack of freedom of the press.
[li-hongzhi] of course doubts those numbers :-) [falun-gongs-view-of-epidemics].
Good timelines so without a fucking paywall:
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https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coronavirus-outbreak-and-cover-up-ee65211a-afb6-4641-97b8-353718a5faab.html "Timeline: The early days of China's coronavirus outbreak and cover-up"
Timeline:
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2019-12-27 several genomics companies had sequenced the coronavirus and noticed the similarity to Sars. According to GeneBank, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MT019529 the sample was collected on and 23-Dec-2019 and published on 04-FEB-2020
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2020-01-01 [cctv] announces that posting about it online is a crime: https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/ko18aa/on_this_day_one_year_ago_cctv_first_reported_on/
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2020-01-03 findings were sent to the Centre for Disease Control (CDC, Zhong Guo Ji Bing Yu Fang Kong Zhi Zhong Xin ) in Beijing, but then the Chinese National Health Commission (Zhong Hua Ren Min Gong He Guo Guo Jia Wei Sheng Jian Kang Wei Yuan Hui ), China's top medical authority, issued orders to not talk about it and destroy samples
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2020-01-08 CDC team went to Wuhan to see the situation, was not informed that contagiousness of the disease had been confirmed
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2020-01-20 the findings were made public, in an interview with Zhong Nanshan. He later said in an interview that the local government should be blamed:
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2020-01-23 Wuhan begins lockdown
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2020-01-24 to 30 Chinese New Year
News coverage:
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2021-03-04 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/china-makes-anal-swab-covid-tests-compulsory-for-foreign-arrivals-mvthjq8c7 "China makes anal swab Covid tests compulsory for foreign arrivals". This is not a criticism to China as the test might be accurate. But it is one of the funniest things I've ever heard.
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2020-12-20 https://www.propublica.org/article/leaked-documents-show-how-chinas-army-of-paid-internet-trolls-helped-censor-the-coronavirus "Leaked Documents Show How China's Army of Paid Internet Trolls Helped Censor the Coronavirus" talks about [wumao] working during COVID
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2020-05-12: https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-cia-believes-china-tried-stop-who-alarm-pandemic-1503565 CIA people said China stopped the WHO from sounding the alarm from January 24 to January 30, while at the same time stockpiling protection materials
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[caixin] article about how early Coronavirus signs were censored:
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https://china.caixin.com/2020-03-10/101526309.html (archive) "Li Wen Liang Suo Zai Yi Yuan Wei He Yi Hu Ren Yuan Shang Wang Can Zhong ?" (Why did Li Wenliang's [Li Wen Liang ] hospital suffer heavy casualties?)
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https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-02-29/in-depth-how-early-signs-of-a-sars-like-virus-were-spotted-spread-and-throttled-101521745.html (paywall) "In Depth: How Early Signs of a SARS-Like Virus Were Spotted, Spread, and Throttled"
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chinese-scientists-destroyed-proof-of-virus-in-december-rz055qjnj "Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December". Paywall skip: https://archive.md/xOKiu Terrible copy paste of some Caixin article with no sources/precise names.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/china-information-crackdown-on-wuhan-coronavirus-2020-1 "China spent the crucial first days of the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak arresting people who posted about it online and threatening journalists" (archive)
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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g5xykx/you-can-now-go-to-jail-in-china-for-criticizing-beijings-coronavirus-response "You Can Now Go to Jail in China for Criticizing Beijing's Coronavirus Response"
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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qjdn4d/doctors-in-wuhan-are-still-dying-and-beijing-is-still-trying-to-silence-them Ai Fen's (Ai Fen ) report of how the situation was mishandling was censored
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2020-04-13 https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/12/asia/china-coronavirus-research-restrictions-intl-hnk/index.html "Beijing tightens grip over coronavirus research, amid US-China row on virus origin". The Government can now veto papers from being published on the subject of the origin of COVID-19.
In other countries:
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[india-covid-handling-twitter-suppression-2021]
4.3.2.3.1. April 2022 Shanghai lockdown
People were getting really fed up by that one:
4.3.2.3.2. Li Wenliang (Li Wen Liang )
He reported the virus, but was told by authorities to stay quiet, and later died from the virus, becoming somewhat of a martyr:
The following excerpt from his forced confession trended:
Ni Neng Zuo Dao Ma ?
Ni Ting Ming Bai Liao Ma ?
Translation:
Can you manage?
Do you understand?
4.3.2.3.3. nCovMemory
Popular GitHub repo documenting personal experiences and media reports:
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https://github.com/2019ncovmemory/nCovMemory "Xin Guan Fei Yan Ji Yi :Bao Dao , Fei Xu Gou Yu Ge Ren Xu Shu " 2020 New coronavirus pneumonia memories: reports, non-fictional and personal accounts.
Some of the creators of the repostory were arrested in 2020: https://qz.com/1846277/china-arrests-users-behind-github-coronavirus-memories-page/ and the repo must have been taken down at that time.
fork with the most stars we can find: https://github.com/dta0502/nCovMemory[], in case that goes down: https://github.com/cirosantilli/nCovMemory
* https://github.com/memoryhonest/nCovMemory-en translation project
Other interesting GitHub repositories: GitHub repositories with censored information (Zheng Zhi Min Gan De GitHubKu ).
Related:
4.3.2.3.4. People arrested for reporting on the 2019 Corona Virus (Yin Bao Dao 2019 Nian Guan Zhuang Bing Du Er Bei Bu De Ren )
Best montage: Eight people were punished.
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Twitter: https://twitter.com/chenqiushi404
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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv361SF6FKznoGPKEFG9Yhw
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/09/asia/wuhan-citizen-journalist-intl-hnk/index.html "Chen Qiushi spoke out about the Wuhan virus. Now his family and friends fear he's been silenced"
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2020-04-18 https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/epgek4/he-traveled-to-wuhan-to-report-on-coronavirus-and-hasnt-been-heard-from-since "He Traveled to Wuhan to Report on Coronavirus - and Hasn't Been Heard From Since"
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=Iwpr55PZEJ8 "Lawyer Chen Qiushi documenting coronavirus epicentre disappears" by [scmp]
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2021-09 they actually let him back online, e.g. https://mobile.twitter.com/chenqiushi404/status/1516189492595814401 anti [russo-ukrainian-war]
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2020-04-25: Chen Mei, Cai Wei and his girlfriend, who contributed to Terminus2049 (Duan Dian Xing Ji Hua , 2049bbs)
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2020-04-14: Zhang Zhan (Zhang Zhan )
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2020-11-16 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/16/citizen-journalist-facing-jail-in-china-for-wuhan-covid-reporting-zhang-zhan, finally accused of [picking-quarrels]
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2020-12-28 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/28/wuhan-citizen-journalist-jailed-for-four-years-in-chinas-christmas-crackdown "Wuhan Covid citizen journalist jailed for four years in China crackdown"
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[xu-zhangrun]
TODO maybe not arrested but relevant:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/p2t243/police_travel_to_mans_house_and_force_him_to/ unconfirmed video: Police travel to man's house and force him to delete his WeChat post about Covid-19 spreading in his area because the government won't admit to any cases.
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Fang Fang (Fang Fang ) published in 2020 Wuhan Diary (Fang Fang Ri Ji , Fang Fang Ri Ji )
Possible free Chinese version: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGF5YWJvb2suY29tfHd3d3xneDo3ZGUzZWZjZDgyZDkxNjc0 (archive)
4.3.2.3.5. Fang Bin (Fang Bin )
He was the second Chinese citizen journalist to vanish while reporting from coronavirus epicentre" by [scmp]
Hist last YouTube video simply shows the following caligraphed message with him reading it twice:
Quan Min Fan Kang
Huan Zheng Yu Min
Fang Bin Shu
which translates as:
All the people, revolt.
Return the country (politics) to its people.
Written (calligraphed) by Fang Bin.
4.3.3. Censorship makes it harder to solve social problems (Shen Cha Zhi Du Shi Jie Jue She Hui Wen Ti Bian De Geng Jia Kun Nan )
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[labour-rights]
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[metoo]
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[gay-rights]
4.3.3.1. Low-end population (Di Duan Ren Kou , 2017)
4.3.4. Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (Wei Shi Yao Min Zhu He Yan Lun Zi You Hui Rang Zhong Guo Bu Tai Ke Neng Fa Dong Zhan Zheng ?)
This has been discussed to death:
Some arguments include:
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the people who will actually fight and die on the front can't vote against it
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dictators have huge power, so if they put it in their heads that they want to start a war, it is much harder for sensible people to stop them
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dictators need to keep the people in fear all the time to keep their power, and a war is a great way to achieve that
Of course China won't say that they are starting a war when they do.
They will of course start with territories which they claim as theirs, to add to other recent additions which were not theirs until the recent past, even though their inhabitants desperately want to leave China:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_China-India_skirmishes | https://www.asiasentinel.com/p/beijing-said-to-fund-separatist-india "Beijing Said to Fund Separatist India Movement"
Which reminds us of... Comparisons between the CCP and Nazi Germany (Na Cui De Guo He Zhong Gong Chang De Hen Xiang ):
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1939 Gleiwitz incident, a false flag attack
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1938 Annexation of Sudetenland from Czechoslovakia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_World_War_II explains:
A decisive proximate event was the 1938 Munich Conference, which formally approved Germany's annexation of the Sudetenland from Czechoslovakia. Hitler promised it was his last territorial claim, but in early 1939 he became even more aggressive, and European governments finally realized that appeasement was not guaranteeing peace."
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1935-1938 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Causes_of_World_War_II&oldid=968409781#Expansionism_and_militarism comments:
In Italy, Benito Mussolini sought to create a New Roman Empire, based around the Mediterranean. It invaded Ethiopia as early as 1935, Albania in early 1938, and later Greece. That provoked angry words and an oil embargo from the League of Nations, which failed.
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1931 1931 Japanese invasion of Manchuria, with one false flag event preceding it: Mikden Incident.
When China calls the USA Imperialist (Di Guo Zhu Yi ), there is of course some truth to it, but it is also very ironic, because as Lindybeige mentions, China is obviously the largest empire on Earth! Despite its uniformization efforts, China is highly diverse since it is obviously made up of a large stitched up carpet of nations that were conquered by a single empire. E.g. Xinjiang (Xin Jiang ) translates literally as "The New Frontier"! Not to mention obviously the unification of the [warring-states-period].
Bibliography:
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/06/14/xi-jinpings-approval-non-war-military-use-raises-fears-taiwan/ Xi Jinping signs directive allowing for 'non-war' uses of the military - a tactic similar to that used by Russia before it invaded Ukraine
4.3.4.1. The United States has recently started several wars and killed millions! (Mei Guo Zui Jin Fa Dong Liao Ji Chang Zhan Zheng ,Zao Cheng Shu Bai Mo Ren Si Wang !)
Not even democracies can fully protect people from other countries, because they don't vote. Yes, congratulations, Western democracies are not perfect (Xi Fang De Min Zhu You Hen Duo Que Dian ).
But if the USA were a dictatorship like China it would kill way more, because it would censor every report against the war internally to its own people, and the wars would just go on like in [nineteen-eighty-four-war-is-peace].
How many times do we have to bring Hitler up? 70-85 million deaths in one go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
The only reason China has not started wars is because it is a poor country, and it would lose them. If it were rich, it would have started more wars and killed 100 times more people.
Finally, some wars are good.
If a country is oppressed by a dictatorship, and most of its people want to be free, it might be right to help them be free.
If a country sponsors terrorism, it might be a good idea to take out their Government.
This has to be analyzed on a case-by-case basis, and maybe a verdict will never be reached. But at least in a democracy the people can decide based on varied information. In a dictatorship, whatever the dictator decides happens.
Also, most of those small wars that he USA started end up being proxy wars between the USA and [russia]/China, with the USA pushing for democracy, and Russia/China pushing for more dictatorships.
4.3.5. The Chinese masses are still uneducated, and not fit for free speech and democracy Zhong Guo Da Zhong Yu Mei ,Bu Neng Hao Hao Xuan Ling Dao
When will they be ready? Who decides? What if they think that they are ready now?
In George Bernard Shaw's "Maxims for Revolutionists" words:
Democracy substitutes election by the incompetent many for appointment by the corrupt few.
Many democracy supporters jokingly recognize democracy's shortcomings.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
Art Spander:
The great thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid.
Laurence J Peter:
Democracy is a process by which the people are free to choose the man who will get the blame.
4.3.5.1. The Chinese masses are not interested in politics and therefore not ready to vote (Zhong Guo Qun Zhong Dui Zheng Zhi Bu Gan Xing Qu ,Yin Ci Bu Zhun Bei Tou Piao )
But how would they be interested in politics or be able to discuss it, if it is impossible to have a different view without going to jail? See also: Chilling effect (Han Chan Xiao Ying ).
What about the 1 million people in Tiananmen and the 70 million [falun-gong] followers? Did they not care?
Chinese political spectrum meme in English: https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b8d4cd1a58c6c7eee88bad82b94f4e5c
4.3.5.1.1. Lurker (Chi Gua Qun Zhong )
This Internet slang refers to The Chinese masses are not interested in politics and therefore not ready to vote (Zhong Guo Qun Zhong Dui Zheng Zhi Bu Gan Xing Qu ,Yin Ci Bu Zhun Bei Tou Piao ) quite well: "Chi Gua Qun Zhong ", the "Melon eater masses.",
Most people dare not comment, they just watch, knowing that any comment, in either direction, is a risk they take, with little likely benefit.
4.3.6. As long as China is developing economically, it is fine to violate the human rights of a few million people (Zhi Yao Jing Ji Hao ,Wo Bu Zai Hu Ren Quan )
This argument can be made, but it is a risky way to live: Most Chinese people don't care about the minorities (Da Duo Shu Zhong Guo Ren Bu Guan Xin Shao Shu Min Zu ).
Herman Goring actually justified the atrocities of Nazism in the exact same way during his appearance on the Nuremberg trials.
Do the ends always justify the means?
What is the point of having all that wealth, when you risk being put into jail for unfair reasons?
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) argues that China would be even richer if it weren't for the CCP: Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (Wei Shi Yao Min Zhu He Yan Lun Zi You Neng Gou Rang Zhong Guo Bian De Geng Jia Fu You ?), and that the CCP only violates people's human rights as a tool to stay in power: Is the Chinese government evil? (Zhong Guo Gong Chan Dang Shi Xie E De Ma ?).
4.3.7. Democracies have less corruption than dictatorships (Min Zhu Guo Jia De Fu Bai Bi Du Cai Guo Jia Shao )
One of the key points of Xi Jinping's governments has been to quench corruption. And use that as an excuse to get rid of rivals while at it.
However, there is one much better solution to that: democracy and freedom of speech.
The reason is obvious: with censorship, corrupt politicians can censor anything bad that they did, and so it becomes much harder to destroy corruption.
In George Bernard Shaw's "Maxims for Revolutionists" words:
Democracy substitutes election by the incompetent many for appointment by the corrupt few.
Ciro does however believe the China spy stories (Zhong Guo Jian Die Gu Shi ) claims made at https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/21/china-stolen-us-data-exposed-cia-operatives-spy-networks/ that the anti-corruption is also a legitimate national security issue for China, in addition to being a tool to take down political rivals:
Over the course of their investigation into the CIA's China-based agent network, Chinese officials learned that the agency was secretly paying the "promotion fees" - in other words, the bribes - regularly required to rise up within the Chinese bureaucracy, according to four current and former officials. It was how the CIA got "disaffected people up in the ranks. But this was not done once, and wasn't done just in the [Chinese military]," recalled a current Capitol Hill staffer. "Paying their bribes was an example of long-term thinking that was extraordinary for us," said a former senior counterintelligence official. "Recruiting foreign military officers is nearly impossible. It was a way to exploit the corruption to our advantage." At the time, "promotion fees" sometimes ran into the millions of dollars, according to a former senior CIA official: "It was quite amazing the level of corruption that was going on." The compensation sometimes included paying tuition and board for children studying at expensive foreign universities, according to another CIA officer.
https://youtu.be/8F0kSDV9U_E?t=408 Shocking Russian Military Corruption Exposed by Task & Purpose (2022) poses an interesting thesis: the toplevel of corrupt governments know about the corruption of officials and accept it. And this is in part to have leverage over them, to be able to bring them down whenever they feel like it. This incentivizes loyalty.
Well known corruption cases:
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2020 Ren Zhiqiang
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/22/asia/china-ren-zhiqiang-xi-jinping-intl-hnk/index.html "Chinese tycoon who criticized Xi Jinping's handling of coronavirus jailed for 18 years"
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2012 Ling Jihua (Ling Ji Hua ): son died in Ferrari crash with two women on the car, which put the spotlight on him
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2012 [bo-xilai]: trigerred by the murder of Neil Heywood, of which Bo's wife was accused
Related events:
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[panama-papers]
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[putin-s-palace]
4.3.7.1. Operation Fox Hunt
Trying to prevent corruption is fine, but violating the laws of other countries in doing so, or the [rule-of-law] of their family is not.
Publicized by China itself: [china-daily] http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2015-11/05/content_22375920.htm
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2020-10-28 "Eight Individuals Charged With Conspiring to Act as Illegal Agents of the People's Republic of China" https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/eight-individuals-charged-conspiring-act-illegal-agents-people-s-republic-china
4.3.7.1.1. The detention of Liu Changming's (Liu Chang Ming ) family (2018)
China imposed an exit ban on the ex-official's family, who are also USA citizens:
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officer Liu Changming (Liu Chang Ming )
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wife Sandra Han
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children Victor Liu (born July 1999 in the USA) and Cynthia Liu (27 in 2019, born in China, but also American citizen)
China says that the children and wife do have valid Chinese documents, so maybe those idiots did not give up their Chinese citizenship and went to China. Why, why, why would you do that? Don't they know anything about China?
Cynthia claimed her father has left home a long time ago and that they are not in contact with their father.
Liu is a so called naked official (Luo Guan ), who let his family go live outside of China to prevent such problems with the CCP.
The wiki page also explains that in 2014 rules were added to prevent promotion of officials whose spouses live abroad.
This reminds Ciro of a Mafia movie, maybe Godfather II, where the bad guy says he "likes doing business with a man that has a family, because he has more collateral".
Coverage:
4.4. Will the keyword attacks really help to destroy the firewall? (Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji Zhen De You Zhu Yu Po Pi Fang Huo Qiang Ma ?)
It is both unlikely, and hard to be sure.
Just like it is unlikely that the activity of on individual can have a big influence in any group of 1 billion people.
Every action is statistical: I just push the balance a little bit towards freedom.
This FAQ and any talk is useless. You and I are wasting our time here.
The possibility of blocking Stack Overflow and GitHub is 1000x more useful than any talk, but it is still useless.
However, potentially blocking those websites takes 0 of my time, I just leave the content there, so it is worth my time.
To have an idea, in 2015 there are about:
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20M developers in the world
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2M in China : https://www.quora.com/Approximately-how-many-programmers-are-there-in-the-world https://www.techrepublic.com/blog/european-technology/there-are-185-million-software-developers-in-the-world-but-which-country-has-the-most/
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5M Stack Overflow users https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/227868/select-count-from-users
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TODO I wonder what percentage of GDP those programmers control. I'll bet any programmer on Stack Overflow is at least 20x more powerful than the average Chinese.
And if we never start somewhere, nothing will ever happen.
Furthermore, even if the GFW falls, it is not clear that this will imply the end of the dictatorship: [dictator-needs-gfw].
Even if it is not, it does not matter, since Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) spends so little time doing it: Doesn't Ciro Santilli have anything better to do than pissing off China? (Chu Liao Fan Dui Zhong Gong Yi Wai ,San Xi Hou You Mei You Bie De Geng Hao De Shi Er Yao Zuo Ma ?) and has fun in doing it.
4.4.1. Embargoes make dictatorships stronger (Jin Yun Shi Du Cai Geng Qiang Da )
The keyword attack is basically an embargo.
There is already a lot of literature about this, especially in the cases of Cuba and North Korea. It is basically a libertarian vs conservative/Cato vs Heritage thing in the US:
The key dilemma is:
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if we keep contact with the Dictatorship, maybe its people will see that democracy is better and start a liberating revolution
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if we keep giving technology to the Dictatorship and it does not become a democracy, we are making a Dictatorship more technologically advanced, and therefore dangerous
Some interesting aspects of the keyword attack embargo:
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it is immediately self-enforcing: we don't need politicians to decide and enforce the complex "if you do this, we punish you like that" question.
By political and technological information is together, and this immediately puts the dictatorship in a bad spot, without us having to decide anything.
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by affecting programmers in particular through Stack Overflow and GitHub, we make them more likely to develop better Firewall climbing tools themselves
One point in favor of the embargo is that China has opened up since the '80s '90s, but did freedom improve at all? Under [xi-jinping], it may be argued that it did not, and maybe that we should just stop feeding them technology and accept that they won't become free.
Trump's 2019 China trade war, and in particular the [huawei] ban, is an event that has brought this question to the spotlight once again.
4.4.1.1. Keyword attacks could be used by certain CCP political groups to justify blocking off the entire external Internet, and make the dictatorship even more pervasive
It is a risk, but it would make China drastically less powerful, so at least they wouldn't be able to start or sustain WW3. So I don't think it will go that way.
4.4.2. Stack Overflow and GitHub could be blocked at no cost by the Chinese government (Zhong Guo Zheng Fu Ke Yi Mian Fei Feng Suo Stack Overflow He GitHub)
Hitting the block button has, of course, no cost.
The cost of blocking Stack Overflow lies of course in the loss of information, and slower technological development, see also: Why attack websites with censored keywords? (Yong Shen Cha Ci Gong Ji Wang Zhan You Shi Yao Yong Ni ?)
Remember that [it-is-not-possible-to-block-a-single-page-of-an-https-website]
The 2019 [nine-nine-six-icu] event however brought to my attention that Chinese (usually WebKit-based) browsers are already censoring HTTPS websites selectively of course, see e.g.: https://github.com/996browser/996.BROWSER/tree/77f28a36a862e3cc4d238dc47c19872156096bc4
But Ciro doubt developers use those browsers, right? The only way would be for China to forbid foreign browsers entirely.
BTW, [ensi] brings a whole new dimension to HTTPS by encrypting the domain name as well!
4.4.2.1. Is Stack Overflow blocked in China? (Stack Overflow Zai Zhong Guo Bei Feng Suo Liao Ma ?)
There was no clear evidence of that as of April 2020: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/267715/is-stack-overflow-accessible-in-china/288497#288497
It worth noting however that as mentioned at Is Stack Overflow blocked in China? (Stack Overflow Zai Zhong Guo Bei Feng Suo Liao Ma ?) that websites can become non-functional if CDNs they rely on are taken down, instead of the website being taken down itself.
For example, Stack Overflow relied on Google for some of its JavaScript and on Imgur for images, both of which are blocked in China.
4.4.3. Keyword attack profiles disturb me (Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji Ge Ren Zi Liao Ye Da Rao Wo )
But isn't it better to be annoyed than having war, being poor or put into jail unfairly?
Another good option is to use the trusty [cac-report-website].
Installing any of those immediately give you 10 Sesame Points, Xi Mo Sui .
See also: Does Ciro Santilli want to harm the Chinese programmers? San Xi Hou Xiang Yao Shang Hai Zhong Guo Cheng Xu Yuan Ma ?.
4.4.3.1. Browser extensions to hide keyword attacks (Yin Cang Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji De Liu Lan Qi Kuo Zhan )
If the truth is too much for you to bear, worry not, you could use one of:
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Greasyfork browser extensions
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https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/32236-stackoverflowJing Hua Qi "StackOverflowJing Hua Qi " (Stack Overflow cleanup)
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GitHub user with the same username: https://github.com/EternalPhane
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https://github.com/eternalphane/UserScripts repo with that source, and a related issue: eternalphane/UserScripts#4 by https://github.com/SiqingYu
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https://web.archive.org/web/20181211094917/https://greasyfork.org/en/forum/discussion/47981
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https://twitter.com/guangyang_li/status/1204880709636124672 dude admiring it: https://github.com/gyli
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2020-07-09 https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/406756-ciro-santilli "Ciro Santilli"
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https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/406756-ciro-santilli/discussions/53697
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Some possible authors (of course, with that name, there must be 10 thousand Chinese people at least):
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a custom ad terminator expression shown at: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#87
stackoverflow.com##a[href="/users/895245/ciro-santilli-%e6%96%b0%e7%96%86%e6%94%b9%e9%80%a0%e4%b8%ad%e5%bf%83%e6%b3%95%e8%bd%ae%e5%8a%9f%e5%85%ad%e5%9b%9b%e4%ba%8b%e4%bb%b6"] -
https://gist.github.com/chenx6/97d912a6ef623f5142f69f44b580c1a0 replaces Ciro's username with "Ciro Santilli my mother died".
4.5. Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (Wai Guo Ren Bu Ying Gai Gan Yu Zhong Guo Zheng Zhi )
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For better or worse, China and other countries happen to be located in the same planet.
If China's economy is bad, the economy gets worse in other countries.
If China's environment is bad, the environment gets worse in other countries.
If China starts a war, other countries will have to fight it.
If China fails to control a viral outbreak, other countries might get infected.
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Millions of Chinese people disagree with their government, but can't say anything about it, otherwise they will go straight to jail. See also: Section 4.7.1.2, "Most Chinese people like their dictatorship (Zhong Guo Da Zhong Zhi Chi Ta Men De Du Cai )"
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Chinese people have been brainwashed by the commies who say that all foreigners are bad, more than the West has been brainwashed to think that he CCP is bad: Non-Chinese people have been brainwashed by the USA know nothing about China (Fei Zhong Guo Ren Bei Mei Guo Xi Nao ,Dui Zhong Guo Yi Wu Suo Zhi )
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China would never ever try to influence foreign countries, would it? E.g. [belt-and-road-initiative], Confucius institute (Kong Zi Xue Yuan ), [cgtn].
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If I marry a Chinese woman, my mother-in-law might be unfairly put in jail :-)
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The CCP would not be in power if it weren't for the Second Sino-Japanese War (Ru Guo Mei You Kang Ri Zhan Zheng ,Zhong Gong Jiu Bu Hui Zhi Zheng ) and if the Soviet Union helped out Mao:
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You can't do anything about it.
In the end, this is what all politics comes down to: power.
In some sense, this may be similar to the CCP and any other political party.
But conversely: Will the keyword attacks really help to destroy the firewall? (Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji Zhen De You Zhu Yu Po Pi Fang Huo Qiang Ma ?).
Figure 20. House of Cards S01E02 "Nobody can hear you. Nobody cares about you. Nothing will come of this." GIF. Source.https://youtube.com/watch?v=SRPiE59e8NU House of Cards S01E02 Officer: "Some guy was trying to get into the building, when we said "no" he started tearing his clothes off." Frank: "Nobody can hear you. Nobody cares about you. Nothing will come of this. Why don't you let these nice gentlemen take you home?" video clip. Interpretation: https://movies.stackexchange.com/questions/94608/what-can-we-make-out-of-the-final-scene-from-house-of-cards-season-1-ep-2
Why don't you go instead shitpost in one of the following repositories and which are written in Chinese by Chinese citizens, many of which have many times more stars than china-dictatorship, and therefore are much more effective at taking down the GFW? GitHub repositories with censored information (Zheng Zhi Min Gan De GitHubKu ).
See also:
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Is Ciro Santilli Chinese? (San Xi Hou Shi Zhong Guo Ren Ma ?)
Duplicate pool: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues?q=label%3Ayou-are-not-chinese-argument
4.5.1. The CCP would not be in power if it weren't for the Second Sino-Japanese War (Ru Guo Mei You Kang Ri Zhan Zheng ,Zhong Gong Jiu Bu Hui Zhi Zheng )
TODO study further to confirm:
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https://www.quora.com/How-much-is-Japan-to-blame-for-the-KMT-losing-control-of-the-Chinese-mainland
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https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao Ze Dong Gan Xie Ri Ben Zheng Yi
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https://www.japanpolicyforum.jp/diplomacy/pt20160517095311.html (Japanese state media, but cites sources)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Revolution mentions:
The French historian Lucien Bianco, however, is among those who question whether imperialism and "feudalism" explain the revolution.[7] He points out that the Chinese Communist Party did not have great success until the Japanese invasion of China after 1937. Before the war, the peasantry was not ready for revolution; economic reasons were not enough to mobilize them. More important was nationalism: "It was the war that brought the Chinese peasantry and China to revolution; at the very least, it considerably accelerated the rise of the CCP to power."
And China would be much much less technologically advanced had it come in contact with the West, from which it is still trying to learn/steal from: University espionage (Da Xue Jian Die ).
Foreign influence can be both good or bad.
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http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2005/07/12/2003263221/ (BIASED) says:
War histories from both Japan and the Republic of China clearly indicate the scale of the CCP's "participation." From 1937 to 1945, there were 23 battles where both sides employed at least a regiment each. The CCP was not a main force in any of these. The only time it participated, it sent a mere 1,000 to 1,500 men, and then only as a security detachment on one of the flanks.
There were 1,117 significant engagements on a scale smaller than a regular battle, but the CCP fought in only one. Of the approximately 40,000 skirmishes, just 200 were fought by the CCP, or 0.5 percent.
Not even the CCP can provide any data on its number of casualties in the war, and there are no memorials to CCP heroes in the war to be found in China. This makes one wonder what China really did contribute
4.5.2. Non-Chinese people have been brainwashed by the USA know nothing about China (Fei Zhong Guo Ren Bei Mei Guo Xi Nao ,Dui Zhong Guo Yi Wu Suo Zhi )
Everyone is "brainwashed" by their environment.
E.g. people in the West are brainwashed to believe in democracy, freedom of speech and human rights.
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) doesn't doubt that Chinese people know more about China than him.
Saying that "someone is not Chinese, he does not understand China", is just an useless Ad hominem (Su Zhu Ren Shen ) argument and closely related to Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (Wai Guo Ren Bu Ying Gai Gan Yu Zhong Guo Zheng Zhi ).
Since you know so much about China, why why don't you just actually prove your point by teaching Ciro one single interesting about China that Ciro didn't know about? He loves learning new things.
But please, link to reference material instead of just saying it, it will be much more convincing.
But if you are Chinese, also consider that you have been brainwashed by the commies, so likely much more than Ciro since you live in a dictatorship.
See also:
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Western democracies are not perfect (Xi Fang De Min Zhu You Hen Duo Que Dian ).
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Ad hominem (Su Zhu Ren Shen )
4.5.3. The CCP exaggerates the threat of the West to keep in power (Zhong Gong Kua Da Liao Xi Fang Yao Ji Xu Zhang Quan De Wei Xie )
First, obviously, Western democracies are not perfect (Xi Fang De Min Zhu You Hen Duo Que Dian ).
However, the CCP greatly exaggerates how evil the West is, because making your people constantly afraid is a classic strategy used by dictators to stay in power.
Or in fable form:
Once upon a time, there was a farmer with a farm.
One day, the animals on the farm started feeling a bit trapped, and started bumping against the fence to get out.
The farmer, however, was smart, and told the animals:
Careful! There is a wolf outside! If you go out, you will be eaten by the wolf!
The animals, were not that smart, and listened to the farmer, they were afraid!
From time to time, one of the animals would disappear (and without their knowledge, reappear on the farmer's dinner table).
But the farmer kept giving the animals delicious food without them making any effort, so they decided to believe the farmer's explanation that animal had escaped and been eaten by the wolf.
Maybe, there was actually a wolf outside. But if they had escaped, only some of the animals would have been eaten by that wolf.
But by staying on the farm, all the animals were, sooner or later, eaten one by one.
TODO source.
This theme is also highlighted in many well known works/events.
North Korea for example, China's good and trusty friend, is just a caricatural level of this, since it manages to be more a dictatorship than even China itself!
In fiction, [nineteen-eighty-four] is undoubtedly the most prominent example, in which the Party constantly switches from being at war with one country to the other in a never ending perpetual war (exactly like North Korea vs South Korea, or China vs Taiwan (Republic of China, Tai Wan , Zhong Hua Min Guo )).
One of the best related quotes comes in Part Two, Chapter 9 when Winston reads Emmanuel Goldstein's subversive text, one of the chapters contains (emphasis by Ciro):
The war, therefore, if we judge it by the standards of previous wars, is merely an imposture. It is like the battles between certain ruminant animals whose horns are set at such an angle that they are incapable of hurting one another. But though it is unreal it is not meaningless. It eats up the surplus of consumable goods, and it helps to preserve the special mental atmosphere that a hierarchical society needs. War, it will be seen, is now a purely internal affair. In the past, the ruling groups of all countries, although they might recognize their common interest and therefore limit the destructiveness of war, did fight against one another, and the victor always plundered the vanquished. In our own day they are not fighting against one another at all. The war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact. The very word 'war', therefore, has become misleading. It would probably be accurate to say that by becoming continuous war has ceased to exist. The peculiar pressure that it exerted on human beings between the Neolithic Age and the early twentieth century has disappeared and been replaced by something quite different. The effect would be much the same if the three super-states, instead of fighting one another, should agree to live in perpetual peace, each inviolate within its own boundaries. For in that case each would still be a self-contained universe, freed for ever from the sobering influence of external danger. A peace that was truly permanent would be the same as a permanent war. This-- although the vast majority of Party members understand it only in a shallower sense-- is the inner meaning of the Party slogan: WAR IS PEACE.
This is also the first line of the party slogan, which perfectly resonates with the CCP:
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
or in Part One, Chapter 3:
Since about that time, war had been literally continuous, though strictly speaking it had not always been the same war. For several months during his childhood there had been confused street fighting in London itself, some of which he remembered vividly. But to trace out the history of the whole period, to say who was fighting whom at any given moment, would have been utterly impossible, since no written record, and no spoken word, ever made mention of any other alignment than the existing one. At this moment, for example, in 1984 (if it was 1984), Oceania was at war with Eurasia and in alliance with Eastasia. In no public or private utterance was it ever admitted that the three powers had at any time been grouped along different lines. Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control. Officially the change of partners had never happened. Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, and it followed that any past or future agreement with him was impossible.
https://youtu.be/74Mw3N6WxG0?t=174 Cant Get You Out of My Head S01E05 Part Five The Lordly Ones also (2021, BBC) mentions that a huge propaganda machinery was created to spread the fake news that [tiananmen] was an evil western plot.
Bibliography:
4.5.3.1. Friendly West-China moments (Zhong Xi You Hao Shi Ke )
4.5.3.1.1. United China Relief (Ge Si De )
United China Relief was the largest humanitarian effort in the United States to aid the Chinese people up to that time. The organization, which was renamed United Service to China (USC) after the Second World War, raised over US$50 million in donations over ten ten years.
4.6. Ciro Santilli and this page are completely biased against the Chinese Government! (San Xi Hou He Ben Ye Wan Quan Dui Zhong Guo Zheng Fu You Pian Jian !)
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) prefers the term focused :-)
That being said, Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) takes the agenda of information sources very seriously.
E.g. he tries to clearly classify Communist Party, Falun Gong, and Western government-linked information sources.
If we had more Western democracies are not perfect (Xi Fang De Min Zhu You Hen Duo Que Dian ) content, then maybe this repository would be considered a more reputable source by Chinese people.
However, there are a few practical problems to that:
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there is freedom of speech in the West and people can already see that information on newspapers who have a million times more viewers than this repo (and still obviously no conclusion was reached), there's no need to repeat that here
Conversely, bad China news are always OK because, because those are all censored in China and help Chinese people learn about it.
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flooding The CCP exaggerates the threat of the West to keep in power (Zhong Gong Kua Da Liao Xi Fang Yao Ji Xu Zhang Quan De Wei Xie ) posts is a primary [wumao] tactic
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The CCP exaggerates the threat of the West to keep in power (Zhong Gong Kua Da Liao Xi Fang Yao Ji Xu Zhang Quan De Wei Xie ) information is already abundantly accessible to Chinese people in Chinese via any CCP media: [chinese-government-media].
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people's minds cannot be changed, and notably not in a language that most people of a country don't understand. This is why the primary goal of this repo is the Screen name keyword attack (Wang Ming Shen Cha Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji ): it does not require changing people's opinions.
For those reasons, we currently forbid, posting several evil-West news without explaining why dictatorships handle it better. It would just generates more noise than signal.
If you do explain however why dictatorships/China handle it better, then the post is welcome.
Any political material that is censored by any country besides China, will also be readily accepted.
Any evidence of positive political progress towards freedom will also be added to this repo, e.g. people openly discussing politics online, human rights activists doing political stuff and not being put into jail, etc.
See also:
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Does Ciro Santilli support Falun Gong just because his wife and mother-in-law do it? (San Xi Hou Shi Fou Jin Jin Yin Wei Ta De Qi Zi He Yue Mu Jiu Zhi Chi Fa Lun Gong ?)
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Is Ciro Santilli a radical? (San Xi Hou Shi Ji Jin Fen Zi Ma ?)
4.6.1. Ciro Santilli's claim to the Qing Dynasty throne (San Xi Hou Qing Zhao Huang Di Ji Yu )
Ciro Santilli's Ciro Santilli's wife (San Xi Hou De Lao Po ), her mother, and paternal cousin, believe that Ciro's wife is the descendant of the brother of a recent Qing emperor through her father's family.
Although they have not been able to produce concrete evidence, which could be explained by the endless political turmoils in 20th century China, Ciro decided that this would be a good bet to take, and married her anyway.
If anyone is able to provide further evidence of this relationship, please, please, please get in touch.
One thing to keep in mind is that the [qing-dynasty], like the previous [ming-dynasty], used Generation names (Xing Bei ), such that the first character of the given name is the same for all people in a given generation (counted directly from the first emperor that adopted the rule.
For example, this wiki page contains a good family tree of the most important Qing people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_tree_of_Chinese_monarchs_(late)#Qing_dynasty and we see that many important people around 1861 were Zai Zai something, e.g.: Zaichun, Zaiyi, Zaitian, etc.
The last emperor was Puyi, so Pu is the last well known mark. But there were others planned that never got used for after him as shown at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisin_Gioro#List_of_generation_prefixes.
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Zai (before Pu)
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Pu (wife's great-grandfather)
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Yu (wife's grandfather)
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Heng (wife's father)
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Qi (wife)
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Dao (wife's children). At least one thing is decided from this: Ciro's children Chinese names will all be Ai Dao Something.
The family tree that Ciro has reconstructed orally from his mother-in-law is:
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Ciro's wife:
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Father: Ai Dayi (Ai Da Yi ) born: 1932 in Shenyang, see also: Ciro Santilli's father-in-law (San Xi Hou De )
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Father: Ai Xikang (Ai Xi Kang ) So why did he not use Yu?
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Father: Ai Pushan (Ai Pu ?), so the Pu character is presumed from the generation name, to be the same generation as Puyi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaitao has a Pushen (Pu Shen ), but he died at 13 years old in 1928, so its not the one.
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Younger brother 2: Ai Xiyuan (Ai Xi ?) Professor at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeastern_University_(China) Apparently had no Children.
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Younger brother 3: Ai Xicong (Ai Xi ?) Graduated in law in Japan in Waseda University Was the top official of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Police_Agency_(Japan) in China when it was occupied by Japan (Jing Cha Ting Chang ) Passed first by Taiwan.
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Younger brother 4: Ai Xiying (Ai Xi ?)
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Younger brother 5: Ai Xifu (Ai Xi ?) Together with Ai Xiying, they were went to the Republic of China Military Academy and were high ranking officials in the war against the Japanese in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War (Ba Nian Kang Zhan ). Later was a congressman in Taiwan.
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Younger sister: Ai Shiping (Ai Shi ?)
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Older brother: Zhao Yingjie. Studied law in Japan also at Waseda University.
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Many of them have had different names in different places/countries, notably many used the name Zhao (Zhao) rather than Ai .
Further anecdotal indicators follow.
Ciro's wife and family are clearly of the Manchu ethnicity just by looking at them, and they originally lived in the North East of China
Ciro's wife's family name is the Ai , pronounced "ai4", which she claims is a reference to the Ai (also pronounced ai4) in Aisin Gioro (Ai Xin Jue Luo Shi ), which is the name of the Manchu ruling clan of the Qing dynasty.
Ai iself is however a somewhat common family name, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_(surname) mentions that it is listed in the Hundred Family Surnames (Bai Jia Xing ), a list of common surnames compiled in the [song-dynasty] with around 400.000 members as of 2008. Presumably members of the falling Qing dynasty chose that relatively common Chinese name to avoid persecution, while still retaining a bit of their history.
Bibliography:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_of_the_House_of_Aisin_Gioro
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https://www.zhihu.com/question/34813921 Xian Zai Qing Zhao Huang Shi De Hou Dai Xian Zhuang Ru He ? What is the current status of the descendants of the Qing royal family?
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https://www.quora.com/Are-there-any-descendants-of-the-Qing-Dynasty-left-currently
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https://arxiv.org/pdf/1412.6274.pdf "Y Chromosome of Aisin Gioro, the Imperial House of Qing Dynasty" unknown year. Unfortunately Ciro's wife does not have an Y chromosome like her father. This does however mention the book used as a genealogy reference: https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Ai Xin Jue Luo Zong Pu .html?id=Pj4EAQAAIAAJ Ai Xin Jue Luo Zong Pu On Douban: https://book.douban.com/subject/4162448/ gives ISBN 9787507713428 On Amazon unavailable: https://www.amazon.com/dp/7507713423. Lol this makes this repo show up at: https://paperswithcode.com/paper/y-chromosome-of-aisin-gioro-the-imperial
4.6.2. Ciro Santilli's father-in-law (San Xi Hou De )
Ciro's father-in-law, who he barely met, was very old when he had Ciro's wife, and passed away before Ciro could talk a lot with him, they only saw each other once or twice over Skype, he died soon afterwards.
Having a child late which is consistent with the claims that he spent several years in jail during Mao's purges, see also: Ciro Santilli's wife (San Xi Hou De Lao Po ). Being an educated person was a crime in those days, and he was a chemical engineer.
His brother and sister both managed to escape to the USA and Japan, but he took his grandma's advice and stayed in China.
Ciro's wife adores her father, who she strongly resembles, and it is a huge shame Ciro didn't manage to meet him better.
Like his daughter, he was a bibliophile, foodie, Buddhist and incredibly morally upright.
The fact that he survived so many years in prison also attests to his incredible hopefulness and mental health: Ciro Santilli's mother-in-law (San Xi Hou De Yue Mu ) always tells how many other prisoners killed themselves in those days out of hopelessness. Ciro's wife shares that amazing quality, which Ciro also believes is compatible with the Royalty theory.
After jail, he actually stayed in the same shitty city where he had been imprisoned, and continued to work as a chemical engineer to make a living and try and improve the country that had so badly betrayed him a few years back.
He also seemed to be an amazing story teller, of which he knew many. At one point, a jail cook took him under his wing, even tough he did not know how to cook too well yet, just to hear his stores. Being highly intelligent, the father-in-law man learned to cook too of course.
Another remarkable episode is when he was working in the prison kitchen, and some man was starving and asked for food. He told the man to come later during the evening. The man came, and he gave him a bowl that seemed to be full of cooked vegetables (likely Bai Cai ). The next day, the man came back, and kowtowed him. Beneath the vegetables, he had hidden some good chunks of then very precious meat!! This story makes Ciro cry.
4.6.3. Ciro Santilli has a preconceived opinion about China that cannot be changed (San Xi Hou Dui Zhong Guo Cheng Jian Hen Shen ,Wu Fa Gai Bian )
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) tries to justify why he think China would be better with democracy, but I know that ultimately all of this is useless.
Everyone's opinions are all determined genetically and by bring-up, and there is nothing he can do to change yours, or you change his.
From that point of view, all of this is just a cold blooded political game, in which Ciro tries to force the CCP to take down the Firewall: Why attack websites with censored keywords? (Yong Shen Cha Ci Gong Ji Wang Zhan You Shi Yao Yong Ni ?).
Ciro never gets mad about China, even if your opinion is contrary to his, and therefore wrong.
Using the reply policy is one of the reasons why Ciro never gets mad.
Ciro also has doubts about the efficiency of certain things I do as expressed throughout this FAQ, e.g. Embargoes make dictatorships stronger (Jin Yun Shi Du Cai Geng Qiang Da ).
Also, Ciro have never said that anyone else is wrong.
In the end, he just end up thinking about new replies to things people say to him, and add them to this FAQ so that future replies will be faster to copy paste. See also: Doesn't Ciro Santilli have anything better to do than pissing off China? (Chu Liao Fan Dui Zhong Gong Yi Wai ,San Xi Hou You Mei You Bie De Geng Hao De Shi Er Yao Zuo Ma ?).
The real goal of any online discussion, is not to convince people, but rather to determine who is an ally and who is not, and get those allies together to defeat the commies.
4.6.4. Does Ciro Santilli support Falun Gong just because his wife and mother-in-law do it? (San Xi Hou Shi Fou Jin Jin Yin Wei Ta De Qi Zi He Yue Mu Jiu Zhi Chi Fa Lun Gong ?)
Not consciously, Ciro thinks would likely support them even if I didn't have family ties to [falun-gong].
Likely he wouldn't have started this campaign if he didn't know them of course.
But of course, this is impossible to answer objectively.
Wouldn't you be rather upset if your mother in law were put into jail unfairly for 15 days?
But don't you think that 70 million people (6% of the total population in 2000!) getting completely squashed by the Party illustrates extremely well the dangers of the dictatorship?
Or if a Jew has escaped a concentration camp and told the world about its horrors, would you just dismiss their claims due to their biased opinion?
With that in mind, Ciro tries his best to give FLG only the right level of exposure I think it deserves relative to other events, according to these guidelines: How does Ciro Santilli choose keywords for the keyword attack? (San Xi Hou Ru He Wei Guan Jian Ci Gong Ji Xuan Ze Guan Jian Ci ?).
If more recent events of mass human rights violations happen, especially affecting in the order of tens of million people, I will probably rank higher than Falun Gong, this was the case for Xinjiang in 2019 for example, even though it only affected a measly million.
4.6.5. Why did Ciro Santilli start his keyword attack? (Wei Shi Yao San Xi Hou Kai Shi Ta De Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji ?)
The last straw that led Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) to start the Screen name keyword attack (Wang Ming Shen Cha Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji ) on Stack Overflow was when on March 2015 his girlfriend's mother was arbitrarily kept 15 days in jail for doing [falun-gong]. He posted about this at:
He then continued because he hate political censorship, and because I love China.
Every time Ciro thinks about this, he notices how stupid humans are. We see the forest fire smoke, and just never think that it will ever reach your home on the border of the forest.
Until it actually does, and then you are really fucked.
So in a sense it was a good thing that Ciro had this little backyard fire with this mother-in-law, as it woke him up further to how serious the CCP thread was, and led him to action.
Because before that, he was one of the majority who just constantly hears about the increasing mountain of evidence of human rights violations, and does nothing about it.
The Darkest Hour (2017) film comes to mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA1Uz_TMzhs. The movie shows that Britain was truly hesitant whether to negotiate or fight Hitler, even after the Nazis had already started invading other European countries, and would clearly not stop. Luckily, we are not at a position of war yet, and might never be due to nuclear weapons. But still, a similar blindness applies. Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019Guan Zhuang Bing Du Bing Zao Qi Ji Xiang Shen Cha ) woke up many people, but even then some haven't faced it.
4.6.5.1. Ciro Santilli's mother-in-law (San Xi Hou De Yue Mu )
Put in jail for 15 days for doing Falun Gong in 2015: Ciro Santilli's post when his mother-in-law was put into jail for doing Falun Gong (Yue Mu Yin Xiu Lian Fa Lun Gong Ru Yu Shi De Tie Zi ).
Some related remarks: [flg-daily].
4.6.5.2. Ciro Santilli's post when his mother-in-law was put into jail for doing Falun Gong (Yue Mu Yin Xiu Lian Fa Lun Gong Ru Yu Shi De Tie Zi )
Maybe some people would be happy if their mother-in-law were put into jail. But unfortunately, this wasn't the case for Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ).
4.6.5.2.1. Jail post en
My girlfriend's mother, a 63 year old lady, was kept 15 days inside a Chinese "correctional facility" because she does Falun Gong.
She had to stay all the time in a small room with a bed and a toilet, under video surveillance, being fed three meager meals a day.
I see Falun Gong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong as just another moderate religion which causes no harm to its believers. The only reason that it is unofficially outlawed in China is because the communists fear it as a political competitor.
There was no trial and no explanation. She was going to take a train to visit her sister. But she didn't know that there was an important political event happening in the capital: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_National_People's_Congress So the police at the station, who already knew she did Falun Gong, took her away.
When she came back home, the house had been searched and was all messed up. Her religious books and computer were missing.
I'm glad she was not physically harmed. I find it fascinating how even well educated Chinese support a government which simply does not represent some of its people. How will you feel when something like that happens to your own family, and there is nothing you can do about it?
4.6.5.2.2. Jail post zh
Translation by my wife:
Wo Nu Peng You De Mu Qin ,Yi Wei 63Sui De Nu Shi Bei Jian Jin Zai Yi Ge Zhong Guo De "Lao Jiao Suo ",Zhi Yin Wei Ta Lian Fa Lun Gong .
Ta Bei Po Dai Zai Yi Ge Xiao Wu Zi Li Mian ,Zhi You Yi Zhang Chuang He Yi Ge Pai Xie De Di Fang ,Yi Zhi Chu Zai Jian Shi Qi Xia ,Mei Tian Liang Ge Wo Tou Yi Wan Zhi You Ji Ge Bai Cai Xie De Tang .
Wo Kan Guo Fa Lun Gong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong Zhi Shi Yi Ge He Ping De Xin Yang ,Dui Xiang Xin Ta De Ren Mei You Ren He Pi Chu . Ta Zai Zhong Guo Bei Fei Guan Fang De Ding Wei Wei Fa (Qi Shi Mei You Yi Xiang Ming Que Fa Lu Jin Zhi ),Wei Yi De Yuan Yin Jiu Shi Gong Chan Dang Hai Pa Ta Shi Yi Ge Zheng Zhi Jing Zheng Dui Shou .
Mei You Shen Xun Mei You Ren He Jie Shi . Ta Zheng Zhun Bei Zuo Huo Che Qu Kan Ta De Jie Jie . Dan Shi Ta Bing Bu Zhi Dao Na Ge Shi Hou You Zhong Yao De Zheng Zhi Hui Yi Zheng Zai Shou Du Jin Xing :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_National_People's_Congress Suo Yi Na Xie Zhi Dao Ta Lian Fa Lun Gong De Tie Lu Jing Cha Ba Ta Dai Zou Liao .
Dang Ta Hui Dao Jia Zhong Shi ,Fang Zi Bei Sou Cha Guo Liao ,Si Chu Yi Qie Hun Luan . Ta De Xin Yang Shu Ji He Dian Nao Du Mei You Liao .
Wo Hen Qing Xing De Shi Ta Shen Ti Bing Mei You Shou Dao Shang Hai . Wo Jue De Hen Yi Si De Shi Yi Xie Shou Guo Liang Hao Jiao Yu De Zhong Guo Ren Zen Yao Neng Gou Po Hai Yi Bu Fen Ta De Ren Min De Zheng Fu Ni ?Ru Guo Zhe Yang De Shi Qing Fa Sheng Zai Ni De Jia Ting ,Er Ni Shi Yao Du Bu Neng Zuo ,Ni Hui Zen Yao Xiang ?
4.6.5.2.3. Jail post pt
Translation by myself:
A mae da minha namorada ficou 15 dias num "centro de correcao" chines porque ela faz Falun Gong.
Ela ficou o tempo todo num quarto pequeno com uma cama e banheiro, sobe videovigilancia, recebendo 3 refeicoes pequenas por dia.
Para mim, o Falun Gong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong e apenas mais uma religiao moderada que nao causa nenhum problema para seus crentes. A unica razao pela qual ele e proibido na China e porque os comunistas tem medo dele como competidor politico.
Nao houve julgamento nem explicacao. Ela ia pegar um trem para ver sua irma, mas ela nao sabia que teria um evento politico importante na capital: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_National_People's_Congress Entao a policia da estacao, que ja sabia que ela faz Falun Gong pegou ela.
Quando ela voltou pra casa, a casa tinha sido procurada pela policia e estava uma bagunca. Os livros religiosos e seu computador foram confiscados.
Eu fico feliz apenas que ela nao sofreu abuso fisico. Eu acho fascinante como mesmo muitos chineses educados apoiam ainda um governo que nao representa parte do povo. Como voce vai se sentir quando algo do tipo acontecera com a sua familia, e voce nao pode fazer nada sobre isso?
4.6.5.3. Further details about Ciro Santilli's mother-in-law's persecution (San Xi Hou Yue Mu Shou Po Hai De Geng Duo Xi Jie )
March 2015: 15 days in jail for no reason: https://www.facebook.com/cirosantilli/posts/952661734753174. They took her computer. When she left jail, she asked to get it back, and a cop said they would only give it back if she paid 10,000 yuan for it.
June 2017: 3 cops came to her house. She was there. They asked if she still did Falun Gong. She said yes. They took photos of her Falun Gong books/posters. They were polite.
October 2017: 7 - 8 cops came to her house at 11PM. They knocked the door strongly and made noise, and questioned neighbours of her whereabouts. Luckily she was not there.
4.6.5.4. In the Tweet about his mother in law, Ciro Santilli says "correctional facility", but reeducation through labour has been abolished
He was not very precise here, the precise term is "jail". He was not talking about: [re-education-through-labor]. Unfortunately it is not possible to edit a Tweet.
4.7. China is fine as it is, stop making it worse (Zhong Guo Hen Hao ,Bie Rang Ta Bian De Geng Zao )
Welcome to the wonderful world of democracy, a world where people can have different political opinions than you :-)
If you are so fine, why are you reading this at all? Go back to being fine.
See also:
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Why would China be better without its Dictatorship? (Wei Shi Yao Mei You Du Cai De Zhong Guo Hui Geng Hao ?)
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Ciro Santilli has a preconceived opinion about China that cannot be changed (San Xi Hou Dui Zhong Guo Cheng Jian Hen Shen ,Wu Fa Gai Bian )
4.7.1. I like my Dictatorship (Wo Xi Huan Wo De Du Cai Tong Zhi )
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) can understand that.
There are concrete advantages to being a dictatorship, see e.g. Dictatorships have greater development variability (Zhuan Zheng Ju You Geng Da De Fa Zhan Ke Bian Xing ), Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (Wei Shi Yao Min Zhu He Yan Lun Zi You Neng Gou Rang Zhong Guo Bian De Geng Jia Fu You ?), making good radical changes like simplifying your insane writing system.
And it must feel good to have absolute truth in the Cult of Xi, and let the black police get rid of weirdos for you.
But what happens when the dictatorship turns again you our your family? Will you fight, or will you just let them do whatever they want because they can never be wrong? See also: Most Chinese people don't care about the minorities (Da Duo Shu Zhong Guo Ren Bu Guan Xin Shao Shu Min Zu ).
And when your son betrays you or sacrifices himself for the Dictator, will you just smile and accept it in pride?
What happens when the dictator declares waw, and if you protest against it, you will go to jail?
Intolerance is a risky way to live.
See also: Seventeen Moments of Spring (1973, Chun Tian De Shi Qi Ge Shun Jian , Soviet series about a Soviet spy against the Nazis, Guan Yu Su Lian Jian Die Fan Dui Na Cui De Su Lian Xi Lie )
4.7.1.1. Seventeen Moments of Spring (1973, Chun Tian De Shi Qi Ge Shun Jian , Soviet series about a Soviet spy against the Nazis, Guan Yu Su Lian Jian Die Fan Dui Na Cui De Su Lian Xi Lie )
Soviet mini-series about about Stierlitz, who is an undercover Soviet spy acting as a Nazi officer in Nazi Germany during WW2.
As a fun note, it seems that [putin] is a Stierlitz fan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stierlitz#cite_note-Sakwa-5, and Putin also served in Germany like Stierlitz, but in Dresden, which was in East Germany.
A scene from the awesome mini-series comes to mind when thinking about I like my Dictatorship (Wo Xi Huan Wo De Du Cai Tong Zhi ).
In Episode 7, Stierlitz travels on a train with a Nazi officer.
The war is almost over, and the desolate officer tells Stierlitz:
I told my children: I hate any democracy!
No democracy in our Reich!
Any democracy in our country is doomed to end up with one thing: the dictatorship of small shopkeepers.
The more freedom we have, the sooner we want to be controlled by SS troops again.
And then we want our the secret police back, and concentration death camps again, and the universal fear everywhere! Only then we feel calm and secure.
No need to prove your point of view in defending the fate of the homeland.
No responsibility.
Just raise your hand in honor of him, who will take care of everything for you,
Just shout out "Hail Hitler!" and everything will become understandable.
No more worries.
It is amusing to see Soviet series criticizing dictatorships, given that the Soviet Union was itself a major dictatorship!
4.7.1.2. Most Chinese people like their dictatorship (Zhong Guo Da Zhong Zhi Chi Ta Men De Du Cai )
It is easy to reach an agreement, when everyone who disagrees goes to jail or gets killed for to [inciting-subversion] or [picking-quarrels].
This is exactly Herman Goring said in his appearances on the Nuremberg trials to justify the atrocities of Nazism.
Also ask the millions of people who were affected by [tiananmen], [falun-gong], Xinjiang (Xin Jiang ) or [dissidents].
One is reminded of the game "We Happy Few" (2018), which which people are forced to be happy. [nineteen-eighty-four] also comes to mind of course.
The interesting thing, is that even those pro-CCP are much more likely to stay anonymous because:
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you never know when something you said will become a sin against some new trend of the dictatorship
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when the dictatorship inevitably falls, you would be persecuted by the victorious freedom fighters
4.7.1.2.1. Chilling effect (Han Chan Xiao Ying )
It is really interesting to see how many people star the GitHub repository, and then a few minutes later they think about how they might get put in jail, and then unstar it.
Unstarring events are exceedingly rare in Ciro's other repositories.
The expression two steps forward, one step back comes to mind.
Luckily in this case, it does not seem possible to view who unstarred a repository after the fact:
4.7.1.2.2. View all users who starred a repository on GitHub including those who unstarred
The Chilling effect (Han Chan Xiao Ying ) is extremelly visible on GitHub.
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) is able to see this easily because the star notification remains in the GitHub dashboard even after unstarring.
However, star events are also publicly visible permanently on events API under the WatchEvent: https://docs.github.com/en/developers/webhooks-and-events/events/github-event-types#watchevent
This appears to get them all from GitHub Archive's Google BigQuery up to the last whole month:
FROM `githubarchive.month.*`
WHERE type = 'WatchEvent'
AND repo.name = 'cirosantilli/china-dictatorship'
GROUP BY actor.login
ORDER BY MAX(created_at) DESC
Ciro verified that does include people who unstarred.
That one exceeds the free data limits as of December 2021 however, so you need to select more specific months/years at a time. Note that year data is only released once every year.
The following ranges manage to get all data as December 2021 for free:
FROM `githubarchive.year.202*`
FROM `githubarchive.month.2021*`
supposing that unique starrers
You can then "Save results" as CSV to view all users.
There don't appear to be unstar events however. You can see single people star multiple times, which means that each new star gives a new row, which is why we do the GROUP BY.
4.7.1.3. Most Chinese people don't care about the minorities (Da Duo Shu Zhong Guo Ren Bu Guan Xin Shao Shu Min Zu )
How can you be that certain that your children won't have dissident ideas and be punished unfairly for them?
Intolerance is a risky way to live. Everyone is part of one minority in one way. If all minorities were oppressed, everyone would be oppressed.
Dictatorships crush minorities much more than democracies.
Do think the majority of the Chinese people would vote to put 50 year old [falun-gong] meditating aunties in jail, if the CCP hadn't made a huge propaganda campaign and used an iron fist?
Are the Chinese really that selfish to vote for this oppression, even as the free media would show videos of meditating old ladies in jail on national television? Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) does not believe this.
Minorities are put in jail because the CCP fears them. Dictatorships can only survive if there is zero difference in opinion in the population.
The famous quote from Evelyn Beatrice Hall (Yi Fu Lin *Bi A Te Li Si *Huo Er ) comes to mind:
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Wo Bu Tong Yi Ni De Yi Jian ,Dan Wo Yi Si Han Wei Ni Shuo Hua De Quan Li "
See also:
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First they came (Qi Chu Ta Men )
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[rule-of-law]
4.7.1.3.1. First they came (Qi Chu Ta Men )
This text comes in relation to the Most Chinese people don't care about the minorities (Da Duo Shu Zhong Guo Ren Bu Guan Xin Shao Shu Min Zu ) shown by brainwashed Chinese to the oppression of minrities. In it, the priest Martin Niemoller regrets not having supported the rights of his opponents that were unfairly treated by the Nazi Government:
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a socialist.Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist.Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew.Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak for me.
A translation from Wikipedia:
Qi Chu ,Na Cui Zhua Gong Chan Dang Ren De Shi Hou , Wo Chen Mo ,Yin Wei Wo Bu Shi Gong Chan Dang Ren .
Dang Ta Men Zhua She Hui Min Zhu Zhu Yi Zhe De Shi Hou , Wo Chen Mo ,Yin Wei Wo Bu Shi She Hui Min Zhu Zhu Yi Zhe .
Dang Ta Men Zhua Gong Hui Cheng Yuan De Shi Hou , Wo Chen Mo ,Yin Wei Wo Bu Shi Gong Hui Cheng Yuan .
Dang Ta Men Zhua You Tai Ren De Shi Hou , Wo Chen Mo ,Yin Wei Wo Bu Shi You Tai Ren .
Zui Hou Dang Ta Men Lai Zhua Wo Shi , Zai Ye Mei You Ren Zhan Qi Lai Wei Wo Shuo Hua Liao .
4.7.1.3.2. It is fine for the CCP to treat some of its citizens unfairly if the majority is better off (Ru Guo Da Duo Shu Ren Guo De Geng Hao ,Na Yao Zhong Gong Bu Gong Ping Di Dui Dai Yi Xie Gong Min Shi Ke Yi De )
See:
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Most Chinese people don't care about the minorities (Da Duo Shu Zhong Guo Ren Bu Guan Xin Shao Shu Min Zu )
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The Chinese masses are still uneducated, and not fit for free speech and democracy Zhong Guo Da Zhong Yu Mei ,Bu Neng Hao Hao Xuan Ling Dao
4.7.1.3.3. This is Ciro Santilli's personal problem, we have nothing to do with it, stop punishing us for it (Zhe Shi San Xi Hou De Ge Ren Wen Ti ,Wo Men Yu Ci Wu Guan ,Bu Yao Yin Ci Er Cheng Fa Wo Men )
We have to fight for justice for our fellows, or else when injustice happens to us, no one will fight for use either: Most Chinese people don't care about the minorities (Da Duo Shu Zhong Guo Ren Bu Guan Xin Shao Shu Min Zu ).
Every form of protest incurs some damage. E.g., if we manifest on the street, it generates a traffic jam.
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) doesn't like it, but he thinks it is worth it.
If you just work to make money and have a good life, without any plans to improve the government, you are just making the economy of the dictatorship stronger, then when they start a war or kill yet another minority, blood will also be on your hands. See also: What should Western countries do about China? (Xi Fang Guo Jia Ying Gai Zen Yao Dui Dai Zhong Guo ?).
4.7.1.3.4. If anyone disagrees with the government they must be punished to keep the stability of the country (Ru Guo You Ren Bu Tong Yi Zheng Fu ,Ta Men Bi Xu Shou Dao Cheng Fa Yi Bao Chi Guo Jia De Wen Ding )
The most possible stable state is a Why does Ciro Santilli say that China is a dictatorship? (Zhong Guo Bu Shi Du Cai !) like Nazi Germany. Except for the part where they try to take over the world and fail. This is exactly what China is becoming: the freaking Fourth Reich (Xi Te Le Zhi You Yi Ge Dan , 1939).
Destroying diversity is the best way to reach a point where everyone can agree to start a new big war and destroy everything.
The CCP thrives on the excessive fear it instigates into its own people.
How can society improve, if we are never allowed to try new things out?
Change in democracies does not require violence. Violence happens because the government punishes any dissidence, even if pacific, to retain its own power.
In democracies, radical policy changes happen without dropping a single drop of blood. People vote, and policies change, end of the story. In JFK's words:
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable
See also:
4.8. There are bad things happening all over the world, why doesn't Ciro Santilli fight for those causes as well/instead? (Shi Jie Ge Di Du You Bu Hao De Shi Qing Fa Sheng ,Wei Shi Yao San Xi Hou Bu Wei Zhe Xie Yuan Yin Er Zhan /Xiang Fan ?)
We have to choose the one we think is the worst, and focus on it.
What is worse is a subjective choice. For Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ):
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he loves China and Ciro's Chinese wife, see also: Ciro Santilli and this page are completely biased against the Chinese Government! (San Xi Hou He Ben Ye Wan Quan Dui Zhong Guo Zheng Fu You Pian Jian !), and doesn't want it to get fucked further by the CCP
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he hates dictatorships, and China is the largest one by population/GDP/nuclear stockpile, and therefore the most dangerous
Ciro SO username and protest time are not infinite.
However, it is good that different people have different interests, and someone will surely be fighting for whatever cause you care about.
See also:
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[russia]
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[thailand]
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Western democracies are not perfect (Xi Fang De Min Zhu You Hen Duo Que Dian )
4.8.1. Western democracies are not perfect (Xi Fang De Min Zhu You Hen Duo Que Dian )
That is definitely true.
Nothing is perfect in this world.
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) just believes that they are way better than a Why does Ciro Santilli say that China is a dictatorship? (Zhong Guo Bu Shi Du Cai !) like China, and that the Chinese government brainwashes its people to think that the West is evil to stay in power.
Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.
However, this is all obviously subjective, and believing that dictatorship is a better form of government is also a valid belief, e.g. Dictatorships have greater development variability (Zhuan Zheng Ju You Geng Da De Fa Zhan Ke Bian Xing ).
If you find an event on a Western democracy that you would like to highlight, send a pull request.
We will not however include events that are not currently censored.
Every country did fucked-up things in the past, the question is if they currently allow discussion about it or not.
Posts that only mention "evil West" non-censored events without adding anything to the discussion will be marked as I want to take my chances and make a shitpost in cirosantilli/china-dictatorship (Shi Tie Zi ) and treated as such, since spamming those is the primary [wumao] technique to stop intelligent discussion.
The reason why "Evil China" posts are not shitposts in general on the other hand, is that they have one specific purpose: to destroy censorship.
This "Western censorship copypasta string" was posted automatically by a bot during r/China purge day:
North Dakota Access Pipeline Protests Bei Da Ke Ta Zhou Jie Ru Guan Dao Kang Yi
Ferguson Riots Fu Ge Sen Bao Dong
2017 St. Louis protests2017 Nian Sheng Lu Yi Si Kang Yi Huo Dong
Nuclear testing at Bikini Atoll Bi Ji Ni Huan Jiao De He Shi Yan
Unite the Right rally Tuan Jie You Ji Hui
Charlotte riots Xia Luo Te Bao Dong
Attack on the Sui-ho Dam Xi Ji Sui He Shui Ba
Milwaukee riots Mi Er Wo Ji Sao Luan
Shooting of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile Ao Er Dun *Si Te Lin He Fei Lan Duo *Qia Si Di Li Ya De She Ji
Occupation of the Malheur NationalWildlife Refuge MalheurGuo Jia Ye Sheng Dong Wu Bao Hu Qu De Zhan Ling
death of Freddie Gray Fu Lei Di *Ge Lei De Si
Shooting of Michael BrownMai Ke Er *Bu Lang De Pai She
death of Eric Garner, Oakland California Ao Ke Lan Ao Ke Lan Shi Ai Li Ke *Jia Na (Eric Garner)Shi Shi
Operation Condor Shen Ying Xing Dong
Occupy WallStreet Zhan Ling Hua Er Jie
My Lai Massacre Wo De Da Tu Sha
St. Petersburg, Florida Fo Luo Li Da Zhou Sheng Bi De Bao
Kandahar Massacre Kan Da Ha Tu Sha
1992 Washington Heights riots 1992Nian Hua Sheng Dun Gao Di Bao Dong
No Gun Ri Massacre Wu Qiang Sha An
L.A. Rodney King riots Luo Shan Ji Luo De Ni *Jin Bao Dong
1979 Greensboro Massacre 1979Nian Ge Lin Si Bo Le Da Tu Sha
Vietnam War Yue Nan Zhan Zheng
Kent State shootingsKen Te Zhou Qiang Ji An
Bombing of Tokyo Hong Zha Dong Jing
San Francisco Police Department Park Station bombing Jiu Jin Shan Jing Cha Ju Gong Yuan Zhan Bao Zha An
Assassination of MartinLuther King, Jr. Xiao Ma Ding *Lu De *Jin Zao An Sha .
Long Hot Summer of 1967 1967Nian Yan Re De Xia Tian
Bagram Ba Ge La Mu
Selma to Montgomery marches Sai Er Ma Dao Meng Ge Ma Li You Xing
Highway of Death Si Wang Zhi Lu
Ax Handle Saturday Xing Qi Liu Fu Tou
Battle of Evarts Ai Wa Ci Zhan Yi
Battle ofBlair Mountain Bu Lai Er Shan Zhan Yi
McCarthyism Mai Qia Xi Zhu Yi
Red Summer Hong Se Xia Tian
Rock Springs massacre Yan Quan Da Tu Sha
Pottawatomie massacre Pen Da Tu Sha
Jeju uprising Ji Zhou Qi Yi
Colfaxmassacre Ke Er Fa Ke Si Da Tu Sha
Reading Railroad massacre Yue Du Tie Lu Da Tu Sha
Rock Springs massacre Yan Quan Da Tu Sha
Bay viewMassacre Wan Jing Da Tu Sha
Lattimer massacre La Di Mo Da Tu Sha
Ludlow massacre La De Luo Tu Sha
Everett massacre Ai Fu Li Te Tu Sha Centralia Massacre Zhong Bu Da Tu Sha
Ocoee massacre OcoeeDa Tu Sha
Herrin Massacre He Lin Da Tu Sha
Redwood MassacreHong Mu Da Tu Sha
Columbine Mine Massacre Ge Lun Bai En Kuang Nan
[guantanamo-bay]
extraordinary rendition Fei Fan De Yan Yi
Abu Ghraib torture and prison abuse A Bu Ge Lai Bu De Ku Xing He Jian Yu Nue Dai
Henry Kissinger Heng Li *Ji Xin Ge [iranian-coup-1953]
Eight-Nation Alliance (Ba Guo Lian Jun ) (1900)
Unequal treaty (Bu Ping Deng Tiao Yue ) (1842-1933)
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Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (Wei Shi Yao Min Zhu He Yan Lun Zi You Neng Gou Rang Zhong Guo Bian De Geng Jia Fu You ?)
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Ciro Santilli has a preconceived opinion about China that cannot be changed (San Xi Hou Dui Zhong Guo Cheng Jian Hen Shen ,Wu Fa Gai Bian )
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Ciro Santilli and this page are completely biased against the Chinese Government! (San Xi Hou He Ben Ye Wan Quan Dui Zhong Guo Zheng Fu You Pian Jian !)
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The United States has recently started several wars and killed millions! (Mei Guo Zui Jin Fa Dong Liao Ji Chang Zhan Zheng ,Zao Cheng Shu Bai Mo Ren Si Wang !)
4.8.1.1. Two wrongs don't make a right (Ji Fei Cheng Shi )
4.8.1.2. The West is racist against black people (Xi Fang Ren Dui Hei Ren You Chong Zu Zhu Yi )
Label: racist-west
wumaos notably mention:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_can%27t_breathe
[wumao]'s started posting "I can't breathe" everywhere, to which some people on Twitter replied "I can't tweet" and [rebel-pepper] made a cartoon: https://www.rfa.org/english/cartoons/twitter-china-cartoon-06052020164712.html
The murder video went viral and was not taken down (would have been in China), all four officers were charged, and the event sparked nation wide protests:
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https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter (Hei Ren De Ming Ye Shi Ming )
Of course there is racism in the West. And we must recognize that, and fight it.
But Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) feels strongly that the Chinese are also obviously at least as racist against blacks, if not more, based on conversations he's had/overheard, and other circumstantial indications:
Oh, and the USA, and other Western countries besides Germany, were also racist against Jews, e.g. Richard Feynman could not be admitted in certain universities due to a Jewish quota, even though he was not a believer himself, therefore based on race alone!
4.8.1.2.1. You criticized China so you are racist (Ni Pi Ping Zhong Guo ,Suo Yi Ni Shi Chong Zu Zhu Yi Zhe )
As of the 2020's, given the importance of political correctness in the West, some wumaos have tried to turn to this line of defense.
Of course, it rarely works, because criticizing a government is different from criticizing a race.
This is something however that wumaos have trouble understanding, because their Nazi estate insists that [the-group-is-the-only-way], and that CCP equals China.
This does however highlight one of the fundamental dangers of any type of [censorship], including political correctness: what if you are criticizing something that is actually bad?
4.8.1.2.2. We Don't Hire Blacks by Aaron Dewitt (Wo Men Bu Gu Yong Hei Ren , 2020)
This amazing video was originally uploaded to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d81mEbL8Yw8 by [aaron-dewitt] on 2020-09-21 but it was down as of 2021-06-21. Last [wayback-machine] archive as of that date: 2020-11-03.
The video description was:
This is an expose of racist companies that I worked for, some of which operate in the United States and Canada, all of which are headquartered in China.
In it, Aaron describes his experiences with the recruitment team of one of his former employers, an unnamed "Chinese ed-tech company in Beijing", for which he worked in human resources. In another also deleted video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6uFGGunRxc he mentions that he cannot mention the name of the company because he was under NDA.
Notably, in that video, he gives several screenshots of Google Sheets spreadsheets with explicitly racist reasons why people were not hired, one of which is reproduced here. Examples of such reasons include:
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"Skin color"
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"Non-Caucasian"
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"62-years old"
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"elderly"
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"Hispanic"
He mentions:
On the first day at this company, I had an orientation with my supervisor Ng, who is the head of the training department. She told me:
"We hire blacks. Obama black is OK. But no darker, or they'll scare the kids. The kids will think they're some kind of monster!"
which would lead parents to just go to a competitor instead. Then he mentions about the Google Sheets documents that:
They shared this document with the entire management team in Beijing, and everyone not only knew, but expected this discrimination to take place.
In the video he also explains how he once went to a 2 week holiday to Bali, and when he came back with his skin darker due to the tanning, he was reprimanded by a manager, who said that he could not work looking like that.
He explicitly mentions later the video that VIPKid, for which he did not work, is a similar company in nature, but not the one he is talking about.
Wikipedia mentions about VIPKid
Its online-classroom portal enables students to receive 25-minute English language lessons from fluent English-speaking teachers.
In March 2019, VIPKid fired two American teachers for discussing the 1989 [tiananmen] and Taiwan (Republic of China, Tai Wan , Zhong Hua Min Guo ) with their students in China. Teachers have also reported witnessing child abuse when teaching lessons, but they found little recourse to report such issues.
As of 2021-05-05, the banner image of VIPKid's website explicitly includes a token black person: https://web.archive.org/web/20210505045920/https://www.vipkid.com/, so their PR department clearly caught air of this. This is however only a frontend for hiring American teachers. The real Chinese client website https://www.vipkid.com.cn/, rest assured, contains no black people: (archive)
VIPKids had a 3 billion valuation in https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/21/chinas-vipkid-which-links-native-english-speakers-with-online-learners-raises-another-500m-reportedly-at-3b-valuation/
Wikipedia links as one of its sources to this 2019 article https://www.wired.com/story/when-online-teaching-job-becomes-window-child-abuse/ which mentions:
Of the dozens of companies vying to cash in on the tutoring business, it is by far the largest, having raised $825 million in investment capital since its founding. Other major players include Qkids, Magic Ears, DaDa, and Gogokid, all based in China.
so it is overwhelmingly likely that one of those is the one mentioned Aaron is talking about:
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Qkids
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Magic Ears
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DaDa
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Gogokid
Later in the video Aaron mentions that the company in question "basically went bankrupt".
He also mentions that he later worked for offcn, which is run by the Chinese Government, and they would absolutely not hire black people.
4.8.1.3. Western democracies have invaded other countries and crushed separatism (Xi Fang Min Zhu Guo Jia Qin Lue Bie Guo Fen Sui Fen Lie Zhu Yi )
Yes, Western democracies are not perfect.
What matters is that citizens can disagree with those actions, publicly say it, vote accordingly, and not go to jail, so that policy will be changed if the majority so wants.
In China, the minority controls the majority, and the majority cannot say anything even if they disagree.
If the majority wants to do evil however, evil will get done, it is impossible to prevent that.
People from other countries don't vote for your politicians in democracy. Therefore, democracies cannot protect them.
What democracy does do well is to reduce the chance that enough of the population will be brainwashed into starting war with other superpowers and destroy the world.
Do you really think China wouldn't invade a country they need resources from because they are more humane?
[too-young-too-naive]. China is already invading its own citizens right now as of 2020 to obtain resources! Xinjiang "re-education" camps (Xin Jiang Zai Jiao Yu Ying , 2017-). And it is using the exact same excuse as the American politicians: terrorism!
Even when the US invades another country, the people who support the US enemy can still pick up arms and fight. And Russia can send help if they want to annoy the Americans, making local resistance stand an actual chance. But when you oppress your own people, they are completely defenseless, and 100% certain to be fully oppressed, since no foreign country would risk world war 3 by sending help.
Do you really think that the CCP would give a fuck about invading other countries? And furthermore, China is specifically oppressing Islamic people in Xinjiang, exactly the same religion of people who live where? In the Middle East.
Xinjiang is China's Middle East.
The reason the USA has invaded countries in the Middle east and China hasn't yet is a mixture of:
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the USA is more developed, and has greater fuel needs, and greater capacity to carry such a war.
Although as we've seen, they've been essentially losing those wars quite often now, by not saying long enough to establish a new stable government.
Part of their defeat is also due to [russia], and increasingly China, helping the other side however.
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the Middle East is full of dictatorships, and dictatorships are natural allies of other dictatorships therefore it is more likely that they won't invade one another.
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the Cold War is still fresh in the American mind. Oil is crucial to fight a war. Countries will do anything to survive, even if it means killing others.
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) is not saying that any of this justifies the actions of the Western powers in the Middle East. But simply that it has nothing to do with democracy or non-democracy.
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Separatism (Fen Chi Zhu Yi , Taiwan Tai Wan , Xinjiang Xin Jiang , Hong Kong Xiang Gang )
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Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (Wei Shi Yao Min Zhu He Yan Lun Zi You Neng Gou Rang Zhong Guo Bian De Geng Jia Fu You ?)
4.8.1.4. Western democracies also censor subjects such as child porn and hate speech (Xi Fang Min Zhu Guo Jia Ye Shen Cha Er Tong Se Qing He Chou Hen Yan Lun Deng Zhu Ti )
First, child porn and hate speech are also banned in China, so shut up. every type of speech is less free in Why does Ciro Santilli say that China is a dictatorship? (Zhong Guo Bu Shi Du Cai !).
Second, if you don't think child porn should be banned, there isn't much point in arguing with you.
Now, hate speech is a very complex subject. Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) does feel that we should be very careful when banning hate speech, and he is not sure if it should be banned at all, as perhaps it might just make matters worse.
But of course, there is also censorship in Western democracies, and there is a gray area between what should be censored or not.
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) only argues that there is on type of speech that must never ever be censored: political speech.
This way, the majority can always discuss and vote to change what can be censored or not.
In China, however, trying to discuss such changes in laws puts you in jail, so bad laws cannot be changed. This lack of freedom also gives the impression to many brainwashed Chinese that dicatorships are better because you see less conflict online. Which is great, until your human rights are violated, and you've got no one to talk to.
The lack of ability to discuss political problems leads to extremely serious problems:
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Democracies have less corruption than dictatorships (Min Zhu Guo Jia De Fu Bai Bi Du Cai Guo Jia Shao ): politicians can censor anything bad that they did to stay in power
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Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (Wei Shi Yao Min Zhu He Yan Lun Zi You Hui Rang Zhong Guo Bu Tai Ke Neng Fa Dong Zhan Zheng ?): if the CCP leaders decide that a war must be made, everyone who opposes it will go to jail, and the war will be made
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Most Chinese people don't care about the minorities (Da Duo Shu Zhong Guo Ren Bu Guan Xin Shao Shu Min Zu ): if the CCP decides that some minority is a danger to their power, this minority gets fucked
Deciding on hate speech, means having to decide what level of hardcoreness we are willing to accept, and there is no clear right or wrong answer.
For example, which of the following do you think should be banned:
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This scientific study suggests that white people do less well in IQ tests.
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This scientific study suggests that black people do less well in IQ tests.
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I'm an idiotic irrational racist and I dislike white/black people. I won't kill them, but I dislike them, and I can't change that, I'm really sorry.
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Let's all gather together and kill our black/white/gay/straight/Muslim/Christian neighbours tomorrow.
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Let's all gather together and kill our oppressive dictator/president tomorrow.
Ciro believes that none of the above should ever be censored, because any form of "hate-speech censorship" immediately opens a precedent for political censorship.
If someone is idiotic enough to organize illegal acts like hurting someone publicly before doing it, it will just make it easier for them to get caught.
And if its just empty words, just block those idiots to not see their posts, or downvotes their posts to reduce their impact.
And if the majority supports idiotic acts like killing someone because of their race, it will get done in a democracy regardless, because that's what democracies do: they cater to what the majority wants.
There's not point in censoring them. Such censorship only makes things worse, as the perpetrators will use that as publicity for their cause.
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Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (Wei Shi Yao Min Zhu He Yan Lun Zi You Neng Gou Rang Zhong Guo Bian De Geng Jia Fu You ?)
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Most Chinese people don't care about the minorities (Da Duo Shu Zhong Guo Ren Bu Guan Xin Shao Shu Min Zu )
4.8.1.4.1. Fake news (Jia Xin Wen )
When a government controls all information to make it look good, and no one can challenge it, you cannot trust any of the news produced by that country, as anything could be fake.
It is much better to have some fake news, but also few sources that are likely telling the truth.
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) is also extremely critical of Western social media companies such as Twitter (Tui Te ) and Facebook which have censored "fake news" from real legitimate accounts or real people, which is a point that Trump has justly criticized in Ciro's opinion.
If it is from a Chinese/Russian botnet, sure, destroy those accounts.
But from legitimate accounts of citizens? The people have to decide for themselves what is fake or real, not you, Twitter and Facebook. If the majority is made of idiots who believe in fake news, then so be it, that's how democracy works.
Censoring any citizen, no matter how stupid you think they are, creates a precedent for dictatorship, and even an incentive to terrorism.
More interesting case is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_First_Amendment_Institute_v._Trump. Ciro feels strongly that people who try to have meaningful discussions on Twitter should automatically lose a lawsuit, and that people should be able to block whoever they want from their personal controlled accounts or forums. It is only the companies who provide the forum service that must be neutral.
4.8.1.4.2. Unjust social media censorship in the West (Xi Fang Bu Gong Zheng De She Jiao Mei Ti Shen Cha )
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2021-03-31 https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2021/03/31/conservatives-blast-facebook-for-removing-trump-interview-with-daughter-in-law/ "Conservatives Blast Facebook For Removing Trump Interview With Daughter-In-Law". This perfectly illustrates why it is unreasonable to ban someone from social media. You end up having to ban anyone who supports them as well.
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2021-01-09 https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/09/the-deplatforming-of-a-president/ "The deplatforming of President Trump" has an overview: Twitter permaban, Facebook indefinite time, Google store removed Parler from App Store, Apple store soon followed: https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/09/apple-suspend-parler-from-app-store/ [tiktok] censorehttps://techcrunch.com/2021/01/07/tiktok-bans-videos- of-trump-inciting-mob-blocks-stormthecapital-and-other-hasht ags/ And Amazon announced a Parler block with 24 hours advance: https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/09/amazon-web-services-gives-parler-24-hour-notice-that-it-will-suspend-services-to-the-company/
All of those banning should not be done. If the people want to rebel, they must be allowed to communicate and rebel.
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2020-08 Kevin Cernekee fired from Google for conservative views
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2020-08-27 https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/06/google-whistleblower-cernekee-pushed-alt-right-views-former-colleague.html "Internal Google memo claimed conservative whistleblower promoted alt-right views"
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It appears to be legal in the US for companies to fire employees based on political beliefs:
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Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) however believes that discussing politics at work is not an efficient way to go about it, because you will be discussion amongst a small group of people since companies are opaque to the outside. Unless maybe if you feel that you employee is directly attempting to influence politics in a way that you feel is unfair.
Ciro believes without evidence that unfortunately anti-discrimination-hiring laws are likely inefficient, as it is too hard to convict anyone. And that providing equal education through scholarships to unprivileged groups and university entry selection where examiners cannot see the applicant's race is the only way.
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2020-12-09 https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/9/22165355/youtube-biden-election-victory-misinformation-rules-remove-content-oan "YouTube will now remove videos disputing Joe Biden's election victory".
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2020-11-24 https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/24/youtube-suspends-and-demonetizes-one-america-news-network-over-covid-19-video/ "YouTube suspends and demonetizes One America News Network over COVID-19 video"
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2020-11-10 https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/09/parler-app-store-facebook/ "'Free speech' social network Parler tops app store rankings following Biden's election win"
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2022-04 Elon Musk is trying to buy Twitterna, and will reverse some of that bullshit:
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2021-01-08 https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension.html "Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump" Archive of suspended account: https://archive.vn/SSHX6
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2020-10-06 https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/5/28/21273241/section-230-explained-trump-social-media-twitter-facebook "Section 230, the internet free speech law Trump wants to repeal, explained". While repealing the law entirely would be stupid, Trump is right that it has given platforms too much control over the media. Except for dictatorial foreign governments, or explicitly illegal material, social media platforms should never remove or comment on any content.
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2020-05-29 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52846679 Twitter "hides Trump tweet for 'glorifying violence'". The people elected that idiot, Twitter leftists have to swallow that.
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2021-01-11 https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-40204808.html "Angela Merkel sees Twitter's cancelling of Donald Trump as 'problematic'"
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Twitch 2021-04-07 https://techcrunch.com/2021/04/07/twitch-off-platform-harassment-policy/
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https://techcrunch.com/2021/04/30/basecamp-employees-quit-ceo-letter/ 2021-04-31 Basecamp sees mass employee exodus after CEO bans political discussions
YouTube:
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2021-10-07 https://techcrunch.com/2021/10/07/google-youtube-climate-change-denial-ban/ Google and YouTube say they won't allow ads or monetized content pushing climate denial
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2021-09-29 https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/29/youtube-will-now-ban-content-with-vaccine-misinformation/ YouTube will now ban content with vaccine misinformation
Related: some Western [flag-desecration] censorship at [flag-desecration]
4.8.1.4.3. Censorship of "politically incorrect speech" (Shen Cha Zheng Zhi Bu Zheng Que Yan Lun )
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) strongly believes that this is a problem with Wester social media. For example in Stack Overflow forbids criticizing the character of genocidal political leaders like Xi Jinping Stack Overflow forbade Ciro from saying:
I think Trump is disgusting as a person
because they thought Trump would become sad and cry.
Western governments should pass laws that prevent this kind of arbitrary political censorship by companies.
But of course as usual: censorship in a dictatorship like China is always a million times worse.
4.8.1.5. Western society is extremely unequal (Xi Fang She Hui Ji Du Bu Ping Deng )
Exactly! And this is something Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) fights daily against through his open source contributions.
And politicians don't really care enough. Partially because:
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the poor don't have access to proper education and vote less often
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corporations pay for their election campaigns
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many of the politicians are rich themselves
But do you really think that further increasing the power concentration as done is China is going to help reduce inequality?
If so, you have been brainwashed beyond reason. Increasing the concentration of power will obviously make society even more unequal and corrupt, never less.
4.8.1.6. Life of Brian (Bu Lai En De Yi Sheng , 1979)
This movie was almost banned in Britain at the time due to lobbying by Christian groups as shown in The secret Life of Brian (2007).
Key scenes:
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Nazi Jew scene from The Life of Brian
4.8.1.6.1. The secret Life of Brian (2007)
Documentary about Life of Brian (Bu Lai En De Yi Sheng , 1979).
Key points:
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[sacred-cows]
4.8.1.7. Snowden (Si Nuo Deng )
Censoring anyone who says "my president is shit", which is what China does, is much, much more serious than censoring intelligence leaks.
The problem with dictatorships, is that they make every information that makes them look bad a "state secret". Including any information that hundreds of thousands of people have witnessed, or economic performance metrics! See also: [internal-censorship].
The level of unknown surveillance that Snowden uncovered is a bad thing about the US.
Snowden's prosecution was inevitable. Countries need secret services. Secret services need laws that prevent leaking classified information that was produced by government officials.
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) has never and will never criticize China or any other country for spying or prosecuting spies.
If Snowden were Chinese, the Chinese government would ban talking about him or anything he uncovered. A keyword attack with "Snowden" in the West has no effect.
It is obvious that the level of surveillance in any dictatorship will be infinitely higher, since the Government has much more power and no-one can criticize.
On the West however, the debate Snowden sparked cannot be censored, and has helped to control excessive and secret state power.
Ultimately, Ciro thinks camera surveillance is somewhat inevitable, because people will always want to fight crime and terrorism and surveillance technology keeps getting cheaper and cheaper.
He is however strictly against the ban of cryptography.
He also believes that a good solution to balance out government power is the Second amendment (Mei Guo Xian Fa Di Er Xiu Zheng An ). It is better to have more school shootings and less full-blown dictatorship led genocides / mass human rights violations.
In 2019 China amusingly censored passages Snowden's "Permanent Record" autobiography book, which Snowden then published on Twitter:
As a Redditor put it:
I don't think they understand that what Snowden stands for is completely the opposite of what the Chinese gov is lol
Snowden then later released the entire Chinese version of the book for free online with the censored parts underlined: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/10/snowden_china_censorship (archive), link to the book: https://a.temporaryrecord.com/Permanent_Record_-_CN_edition_with_underlined_redactions.pdf (archive). One wonders why he didn't just do that in the first place for all versions, maybe he needed to pay the writer that helped him?
https://youtu.be/MhJldILZhJ8?t=138 "A matter of internal security: the age old cry of the oppressor". Picard, Star Trek: The Next Generation s03e11 "The Hunted". video::MhJldILZhJ8[youtube,height=400,width=600,time=138]
4.8.1.8. Bad things have been done in the name of freedom (Yi Zi You De Ming Yi Ren Zuo Guo Hen Duo Pi Shi )
E.g.: September 11th.
Bad things have been done in the name of anything.
It's just that much, worse things are done without freedom than with it.
Democracies cannot necessarily protect weak countries from powerful ones either. No political system can do that, because humans are trash essentially.
What democracy do is to protect its own people against its own government. Because when the government turns against part of the population in a dictatorship, that part of the population gets crushed entirely, without any chance to fight, because they don't have an army or ally countries like other countries do.
Here are some images that [wumao]'s like to post:
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Left Right Slaughterhouse comic: https://9gag.com/gag/ayn7KmW?ref=fbp
4.9. Is the Chinese government evil? (Zhong Guo Gong Chan Dang Shi Xie E De Ma ?)
Obviously not, just inefficient and dangerous.
It is just another non-democratic empire like the [qing-dynasty], we might as well cal it:
Gong Chan Zhao
The Communist Dynasty
Expression previously mentioned at: https://web.archive.org/web/20161025220242/http://tieba.baidu.com/p/752094668
Like any other organization and individual everywhere in the entire world, they are just doing everything that they can to maintain their own power.
It just happens that China's the current is political system allows the CCP to do really bad things.
And it should also be noted that it is in part the West's fault that China currently has this shitty system.
[falun-gong] thinks otherwise of course, they think the CCP is actually made up of real actual devils in some dimension: [does-ciro-santilli-believe-in-or-practice-falun-gong]. E.g. on the https://endccp.com/ Falun Gong lead campaign:
The demon CCP has plundered the ancient land of China
4.9.1. Chinese politicians really care about the Chinese citizens (Zhong Guo Zheng Ke Zhen Zheng Guan Xin Zhong Guo Gong Min )
Sometimes people say Ciro Santilli is naive.
Politicians are the same all over the world.
Some might have good intentions, but most don't give a shit about anyone else.
But all must play a careful political game, and sometimes betray their own beliefs to not lose power entirely.
Even those that genuinely care might have to play such political games.
China's problem is not its politicians.
It's the current shitty political organization, which allows/convinces those politicians to do really bad things: Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (Wei Shi Yao Min Zhu He Yan Lun Zi You Neng Gou Rang Zhong Guo Bian De Geng Jia Fu You ?), Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (Wei Shi Yao Min Zhu He Yan Lun Zi You Hui Rang Zhong Guo Bu Tai Ke Neng Fa Dong Zhan Zheng ?) and Democracies have less corruption than dictatorships (Min Zhu Guo Jia De Fu Bai Bi Du Cai Guo Jia Shao ).
Western politicians don't care about the people either: Western society is extremely unequal (Xi Fang She Hui Ji Du Bu Ping Deng ). But at least they have to pretend a little.
By John Kenneth Galbraith, possibly based on an earlier [soviet-union] joke https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ocasio-cortez-capitalism-quote/:
Under capitalism, man oppresses man. Under socialism, it's just the opposite.
4.9.2. Is Chinese politician X evil? (Zhong Guo Zheng Ke XXie E Ma ?)
The term evil does not make sense unless you are religious.
The best definition of evil is a psychopath with zero empathy for anyone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy although this can be better characterized as a disease or extreme personality trait.
The huge majority of those politicians are just regular dudes with a knack for politics but brought up in a fucked up political situation.
Just like you, Ciro Santilli and other politicians in any country.
See also: [politicians].
4.10. Comparisons between the CCP and Nazi Germany (Na Cui De Guo He Zhong Gong Chang De Hen Xiang )
The more Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) learns about the Nazis, the more similar they CCP looks to them. As of 2020, the [ccp] is much more like Nazi Germany than it is like the [soviet-union].
Both CCP and Nazis share the same basic core ideology: capitalism, love your country/leader mindlessly, work hard, throw any dissidents under the bus, and everyone will become richer (except the dissidents who will be in jail or dead).
Thankfully, the CCP is possibly less bad as of 2020 it has less of "this minority (Jews) is the cause of all our problems/racial supremacy approach". But everything else, and arguably the key points that got most German people on-board in the first place, are so similar, that it has to raise huge red flags.
We must however be careful not to demonize the Nazis, as that is not a helpful way to learn from the past.
The Nazis were also people like us, and that is the scary thing we must never forget, thus we should never fall for:
Notably, it can be argued that the Nazis did bring economic growth and stability to Germany, which the people desperately needed, see also Goring's appearance on the Nuremberg trials.
Keywords:
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Xitler (Xi Te Le ). Xi "xi2" is very close in sound to the Chinese name of Hitler: Xi Te Le (xi1 te4 le4)
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Chinazi (Chi Na Cui Chi Na Cui). TODO why Chi . Means Red, which is a reference to Communism, although red was of course it was also the color of the original Nazis. But where else is it used? Chi is also chosen to achieve the sound "Chi Na" as a variant of Shina (zhina, Zhi Na )
See also:
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Young Pioneers vs Hitler Youth.
Articles:
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http://yashalong.blog.caixin.com/archives/188877 Zhe Yao Hao De Ren Min ,Bu Dao Dian Mei Du Dui Bu Qi Ta Men "These are such good people, if they have a bit of bad luck, excuse them." article by yashalong Ya Sha Long published on [caixin]. The article discusses how Nazi Germany propaganda worked, without mention to the CCP, but it was still apparently banned in China.
https://www.southbankresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2020/01/ZHA-issue-2510-free.pdf has a good quote:
Would you have stood up to Hitler when he came to power? Or would you have been an appeaser, like Chamberlain? Or perhaps even a supporter of fascism, like the Daily Mail's owner at the time?
We all like to imagine we're courageous enough to stand up to tyranny and persecution. That we would have stood up to the villains of the past. Seen them for what they really were, even helped rescue their victims from danger. We certainly don't like to think we would have bought their goods or funded, invested in their economies...
Well today, you're going to find out what you're made of.
TODO some failed attempts at ASCII art flags:
Wan Wan
Wan Wan Wan
Wan Wan Wan Wan
Wan Wan Wan Wan Wan
Wan Wan Wan Wan Wan Wan Wan
Wan Wan Wan Wan Wan
Wan Wan Wan Wan Wan
Wan Wan Wan
Wan Wan
Wan Wan
Wan Wan
Wan Wan
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4.10.1. Hitler Has Only Got One Ball (Xi Te Le Zhi You Yi Ge Dan , 1939)
We have to make a [xi-jinping] version of this!!!
There's even an Uncencyclopedia page for it.
We have to do a Chinese version. A starting point:
Ze Dong ,Huan Hao You Yi Ge Ban
Ze Min ,
Xiao Ping ,
4.10.2. Thousand-Year Reich (Zhong Hua Ren Min Gong He Guo Mo Sui )
As mentioned at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reich&oldid=1054809270#During_the_Nazi_period a popular way of referring to the Nazi rule was as the:
Thousand-Year Reich
In China, a popoular expression for "Long Live" is "Mo Sui ", which means "live for ten thousand years".
This comes from old Imperial times, but applies perfectly to the Nazi/CCP analogy.
4.10.2.1. Fourth Reich (Xi Te Le Zhi You Yi Ge Dan , 1939)
Neo-Nazis thought they might be the ones. Skinhead newbs. China beat them to it by a mile.
4.10.3. China is like the Borg from Star Trek (Bo Ge (Xing Ji Lu Xing He Zhong Gong Chang De Hen Xiang )
TODO memes?? Only one image here: https://www.techinasia.com/qihoo-acquistion-updates-sogou-talks-confirmed-chukong-rumors-denied but we need more, e.g. several top commies with Borg photoshop, or even better something showing the people as borgs as well.
Notable mentions:
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2019 https://ihare.org/2019/08/07/when-will-the-borg-assimilate-hong-kong-is-resistance-futile/ When Will the Borg Assimilate Hong Kong?: Is Resistance Futile?
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2018 https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/a-real-borg-collective-xi-jinpings-china-is-americas-defining-challenge-in-2019 A real Borg collective, Xi Jinping's China is America's defining challenge in 2019
4.11. Contributing guidelines (Gong Xian Zhi Nan )
4.11.1. I want to take my chances and make a shitpost in cirosantilli/china-dictatorship (Shi Tie Zi )
So, have you reached the conclusion that your shitpost is worth the risk of getting blocked?
Remember that shitposts can also be creative: if you are going to insult Ciro Santilli, at least do it in a creative way, or else you look like an even bigger idiot than you really are.
A collection of shitposts for you to take inspiration from can be found at: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues?q=label%3Ashitpost+
Also, when opening a shitpost you may mark it clearly such with the shitpost issue template which automatically assigns the shitpost label. Doing so will make you look like less of an idiot.
While we require polite replies to polite posts, no matter what which side they are defending, if a post is marked as a shitpost, things are much more relaxed and fun, and you can generally get away with telling the OP to fuck themselves without getting blocked.
4.11.2. I am going to write a huge wall of text to prove my point
Feel free to do that, but no one will ever read most of it.
If you want your comment to be read, choose your key point well, and deliver it.
It is a shame that most people who are ever able to do that are shitposters, but credit where credit is due.
4.11.3. Can I contact Ciro Santilli in Chinese? (Wo Ke Yi Yong Zhong Wen Lian Xi San Xi Hou Ma ?)
If you don't know English well enough, that's fine though, go for Chinese, Ciro Santilli will likely understand it: Does Ciro Santilli speak Chinese? (San Xi Hou Hui Shuo Zhong Wen Ma ?).
But if you do, use English.
Ciro is not going to learn Chinese because of your message.
It is more productive for you to write in English, so that the rest of the West can also learn something new.
Especially since it seems that most Chinese already know what you are talking about, so you are better off teaching Western people about it.
4.11.3.1. I am going to use a bunch of Chinese slangs because it makes me feel smart (Wo Zhi Dao Wang Luo Yu Yan ,Wo Hen Cong Ming )
Obviously, if you want to be understood, use simple and standard Chinese, since as Ciro has already stated clearly, his Chinese sucks: Does Ciro Santilli speak Chinese? (San Xi Hou Hui Shuo Zhong Wen Ma ?).
Avoid slangs, otherwise Ciro might not have patience to Google your useless slangs down Zhihu questions.
Of course, if you have to read this, you likely are not going to say anything useful in the first place, so not reading your post is likely fine, just make sure to mark it as a I want to take my chances and make a shitpost in cirosantilli/china-dictatorship (Shi Tie Zi ) if you don't want Ciro to think you are a complete idiot.
Using slangs makes some people feel smart due their advanced knowledge of a specific subculture, or makes them feel part of that subculture to gather allies. I.e., it is a form of shibboleth. It mainly comes down to a way of avoiding any rational conversation about China's obvious problems by highlighting Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (Wai Guo Ren Bu Ying Gai Gan Yu Zhong Guo Zheng Zhi ).
Or maybe they just want to waste Ciro's time.
Such idiots don't see however that every major slang is Googleable, and that every overly obscure slang is already not understandable by a large part of the Chinese population, and won't be understood by anybody in 5 years, so that you are wasting your time writing this gibberish. But since you are an idiot, it's not like you have anything better to do with your time, so maybe it doesn't matter.
If you want to efficiently prevent anyone from understanding your stuff, Ciro recommends that you just use SHA-256 instead:
286b183bf41d6c9de5315bbd64f1ca35a58157ae2e7f38086978c108e67c4882 -
A Chinese insult tip 101, avoid similar sound euphemisms. If you are going to say shit at least grow some balls or tits and use the proper characters, Ciro will respect you more for it:
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Bi cunt, most often for Sha Bi
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Bi
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"sb"
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Cao fuck: Cao
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Sha idiot: Sha
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Diao dick: Diao
Places to try and decrypt Internet slang when you feel like wasting your time:
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https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhong Guo Da Lu Wang Luo Yong Yu Lie Biao
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"Wang Luo Yong Yu " is the most common word for "Internet Slang", so also useful for Google searches
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Random slangs of interest and related concepts:
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Huo Xing Wen (Martian language). This figures for example in the language rules of the PTT Bulletin Board System (Taiwanese message board, Pi Ti Ti Shi Ye Fang ) joke board: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/joke/M.1602005687.A.E4D.html (Jin Zhi Shi Yong Jian Ti Zi , Zhu Yin Wen , Huo Xing Wen , Wai Guo Yu Yan Huo Qi Ta Wu Fa Zhi Guan Li Jie Zhi Nei Rong Zuo Wei Wen Zhang Zhu Ti ).
Some useful slangs seen on the wild:
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Min Gan Ci : Min Gan Ci sensitive words, phonetic approximation
GitHub issue label: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues?q=label%3Ai-know-slangs-i-smart+
4.11.3.1.1. Ruhua (to disgrace china, Ru Hua , Ru Hua )
Basically a 2 character slang for [hurt-the-feelings-of-the-chinese-people] which cool people in the web use:
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https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/75717383 Tian Tian Ru Hua ,Ru Hua De Dao Di Shi Shui ? on Zhihu (Zhi Hu , censored Quora clone, Shen Cha Quora Ke Long )
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https://www.dw.com/zh/Yi Xi Lie Guo Ji Da Pai Fen Fen Xian Ru Ru Hua Feng Bo /a-49994530 on [dw]
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https://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/simp/chinese-news-46314935 on [bbc]
The pardox is: as soon as you start talking about ruhua, you start to risk getting banned in China, because most of ruhua is banned in China itself.
In this project for example: https://github.com/leiroc/insults the author is aiming to create a list of such insults. So someone came and suggested adding this project to the list at: https://github.com/leiroc/insults/issues/4, which is obviouly censored in China, as an example. They even have an [icp-license] at https://insults.cn/, isn't that cute?
To which the repo owner replied:
Gan Xie Ti Jiao ,Zhe Ge Ren You Dian Feng Kuang Liao . Wo Jiu Bu Gei Jia Dao Ji Lu Li Mian Liao ,Yin Wei Jia Jin Qu ,Kan Dao De Ren Jiu Hui Geng Jia Duo . Dui Yu Zhe Xie Xin Xi Bu Shi Suo You Ren Du You Fen Bie Zhen Wei De Neng Li . Hai Pa You Xie Ren Xin Liao Ta De ,Huo Zhe Bei Ta You Dao . Suo Yi Huan Shi Rang Ta Xiao Sheng Shao Pu Guang De Hao ,Zhe Xie Ren Guo Jia Ken Ding Yi Zhi Zai Jian Kong De ,Wo Men Ke Yi Fang Xin .
Google Translate:
Thanks for submitting, this person is a bit crazy. I won't add it to the record, because if you add it, you will see more people. Not everyone has the ability to distinguish between authenticity and falsehood for this information. I'm afraid that some people will believe him or be induced by him. Therefore, it is better to silence him and reduce exposure. These people and countries must have been monitoring them, so we can rest assured.
This perfecly shows the ruhua paradox. In the end, you are only allowed to talk about the most idiotic and insipid events, while censoring any serious self criticism.
The Chinese masses are still uneducated, and not fit for free speech and democracy Zhong Guo Da Zhong Yu Mei ,Bu Neng Hao Hao Xuan Ling Dao also comes to mind.
TODO the README says that it is a static blog, but I can't find the source on GitHub anywhere, that repo contains almost nothing.
The large majority of posts are about Western companies that comply with Chinese censorship requests (Zun Shou Zhong Guo Shen Cha Yao Qiu De Xi Fang Gong Si ), because those cowards retract their claims afterwards.
Some sample posts that are not about Western companies:
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https://insults.cn/posts/4747/ NBARu Hua Shi Jian Shi Zen Yao Hui Shi ?NBAMo Lei Ru Hua Shi Jian ! (What happened to the NBA insult to China? NBA Morey insulting China incident!) about [lebron-james-opposes-hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019]
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https://insults.cn/posts/60695/ Ru He Pan Duan Yi Ge Lao Wai Kua Zhong Guo ,Shi Fa Zi Zhen Xin ,Huan Shi Cai Fu Mi Ma ? (How to judge whether a foreigner praises China from his sincerity or the code of wealth?) is about [ccp-apologists]
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https://insults.cn/posts/64035/ Mai Guo Qiu Rong Xu Xiu Zhong Ge Ren Jian Li :Liu Xue Sheng Zhong De Bai Lei !Yi Jian Zhong De "Jiao Jiao Zhe "!Xi Fang Mei Ti Yan Zhong De "Bao Cang Nu Hai "! is about [vicky-xu]
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https://insults.cn/posts/65025/ notepad++Ru Hua Shi Jian :Zuo Zhe Don HOZai Tui Te Shang Gong Kai Fa Biao Ru Hua Yan Lun (Notepad++ insulting China incident: author Don HO publicly published insulting remarks on Twitter) about Notepad++
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https://insults.cn/posts/64915/ Wu Nao Hei Zhong Guo ,Sun Xiang Wen Man Hua Ru Hua Shi Wei Liao Zi Ji Yao Ru Ri Ben Ji ,Dan Ta Zhi Jin Reng Mei You Ru Yuan is about [sun-xiangwen]
4.11.3.1.2. Shina (zhina, Zhi Na )
Derogatory or humorous way to refer China. Occurrences:
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[zhina-wiki]
A variant sound "Chi Na" is also seen at Chinazi (Chi Na Cui ) from Comparisons between the CCP and Nazi Germany (Na Cui De Guo He Zhong Gong Chang De Hen Xiang ).
4.11.3.1.3. Internet number slang (Wang Luo Shu Zi Yu Yan )
https://newrepublic.com/article/117608/chinese-number-websites-secret-meaning-urls highlights how numeric emails and URLs are especially popular in China, in part due to the ASCII/West-centrism of web standards: https://www.quora.com/What-is-126-com-and-why-are-they-the-owner-of-millions-of-good-domain-names/answer/Ciro-Santilli
Examples in this page:
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[nine-nine-six-icu] is an example that is not phonetic, but just about meaning
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Liu Si used to refer to [tiananmen]
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https://www.12321.cn/web and http://12377.cn from [cac-report-website] are likely examples where older well known official phone numbers were just directly converted to URLs
Bibliography:
4.12. Personal questions about Ciro Santilli (Guan Yu San Xi Hou De Wen Ti )
4.12.1. Has Ciro Santilli you ever lived in China? (San Xi Hou Zhu Guo Zhong Guo Ma ?)
Not as of 2019, he has only visited once in 2012, and it was amazingly beautiful.
But he doesn't think it is a good idea for him to do that now, in case his Visa got accepted, because he is not interested in learning about the Chinese jail system! :-)
He knows that if you don't mind contributing to making WW3 deadlier and shut up and obey the CCP, China is already a fine place to live as much as any other developing country.
4.12.1.1. Would Ciro Santilli like to live in China? (San Xi Hou Xiang Zhu Zai Zhong Guo Ma ?)
If the dictatorship ends, Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) would like to migrate to China if given a decent job to help China develop and become awesomer.
Before the Dictatorship, Ciro likely won't be able to enter/it wouldn't be a good idea: Would Ciro Santilli be able to visit China before the CCP ends? (San Xi Hou Neng Fou Zai Zhong Gong Jie Shu Zhi Qian Fang Wen Zhong Guo ?).
And it is immoral to help make dictatorships richer by working for their companies: What should Western countries do about China? (Xi Fang Guo Jia Ying Gai Zen Yao Dui Dai Zhong Guo ?).
4.12.1.2. Would Ciro Santilli be able to visit China before the CCP ends? (San Xi Hou Neng Fou Zai Zhong Gong Jie Shu Zhi Qian Fang Wen Zhong Guo ?)
It would be interesting to apply for a VISA to find out.
But Ciro won't do it because it is too risky that it would be a waste of Ciro's precious time and money.
Firstly, Jamal Khashoggi taught us that walking into enemy into consulates of enemy countries is a bad idea.
Then, even if the VISA were accepted, Ciro could still be turned back on entering the country, thus wasting the flight time and money. This could either be a genius plot to waste the money of enemies of the state, or due to a crappy divided IT system between the border control and the VISA people.
Finally, even after the border, there is still the possibility that Ciro could be stopped in the country half-way through the visit and sent back, or be interrogated for a few days, or less likely murdered with poison.
Therefore, if you think that living in China is fundamental to understand it, please just explain what you think one can learn from the experience instead. Do you really need to live there to see its censorship machine working? It would arguably be harder to see it from the inside.
See also: What should pro-democracy Chinese living in China do about the dictatorship? Xiang Yao Min Zhu Zhu Zai Zhong Guo Da Lu De Ren Ying Gai Gan Shi Yao ?.
Bibliography: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#93
4.12.2. Is Ciro Santilli Chinese? (San Xi Hou Shi Zhong Guo Ren Ma ?)
It makes Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) smile when wumaos consider he might be Chinese.
Does "Ciro Santilli" sound like a Chinese name?
Would a Chinese person write this tutorial primarly in English?
Would a Chinese person speak such obviously shit Chinese?
Think, wumao, think!!!
And it does not matter: Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (Wai Guo Ren Bu Ying Gai Gan Yu Zhong Guo Zheng Zhi ).
But his wife is.
4.12.3. Does Ciro Santilli speak Chinese? (San Xi Hou Hui Shuo Zhong Wen Ma ?)
As of 2019, oral enough for daily things, but not understand most natural casual dinner conversation or watch TV series, because they go too quickly into vocabulary subject areas that he doesn't know. And obviously, using slangs just makes things really hard.
When it matters, and with some patience, he can make himself understood though with some analogies (archive) and a dictionary.
From the HSK vocabulary list, he estimates that he is definitely HSK 3, but not quite HSK 4. This would likely equate A2/B1 in the European system.
Phonetics wise, Ciro can't distinguish or produce a few sounds, notably -ing vs -in and his off-tone rate is high, but it tends to not matter at all compared to his lack of vocabulary. Except for his mother-in-law, who sometimes does not understand it at all without correct tones!
Ciro reads with https://github.com/cschiller/zhongwen after Perapera died when he wants to learn new words/has patience/something is very important, and can basically understand everything in that way. TODO perapera support stopped in 2021: https://www.perapera.org/plugins/ and since browsers don't have stable API's it very quickly stopped working for everyone. Alternatives asked at: https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/78268/on-mouse-hover-pop-up-chinese-dictionary-browser-extension-alternative-to-perape/ Zhongwen worked, source at https://github.com/cschiller/zhongwen
When he has no patience or for larger not very important chunks of text though, he reads with Google Translate as it tends to work, and then if there is an important sentence that was translated to garbage with Perapera.
Ciro writes with a mixture of Pleco, Google translate and Googling to see if Chinese actually say the sentences that way, never Google translate alone as it would be too imprecise.
Ciro really wishes he could learn more Chinese. Ciro really loves the Chinese language. But he has other more important endeavors at the moment. There simply aren't enough hours in a day.
Spoken Chinese is in Ciro's opinion a relatively easy language to learn from scratch, because word formation is so often logical:, e.g.:
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volcano = fire + mountain: Huo Shan (huo shan)
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train = fire + car: Huo Che (huo che), a reference to old steam locomotives
and there is no useless crap like verb grammatical conjugation, grammatical gender, plural inflection, capitalization, etc. (latino sine flexione anyone?)
Ciro hasn't tried to learn characters because too much effort, but he did learn some of the most common ones without trying.
Ciro initially learnt from book that come with audio recordings in the first 6-months to 1 year in 2010, but that got impossibly boring afterward, so he later moved to just basically talking as much as possible non-important things to his wife in Chinese, and whenever he reaches one that he doesn't know that seems useful, he Plecos it up or just Zen Yao Shuo to his Ciro Santilli's wife (San Xi Hou De Lao Po ) and then Pleco.
It should also be mentioned that Ciro also feels that it would be better if all countries more officially adopted English as an international language that everyone should learn for reasons explained at: https://cirosantilli.com/#having-more-than-one-natural-language-is-bad-for-the-world
4.12.3.1. Chinese characters are insane (Yi Zi Shi Feng Kuang De )
Maybe the commies for once did something good by introducing simplified Chinese characters (Jian Hua Zi )?
But they should have gone further and reduced it to pinyin like the Korean and Vietnamese did, this will make your culture much easier to export.
No foreign adult will every learn to read and write Chinese unless they are completely obsessed by the culture or need it as part of their jobs. And even then, they will avoid it at all costs, because life is just too short!
Japanese furigana also comes to mind. The characters are so insane that you need to a well specified and widely used phonetic reading aid, especially for teenagers, but likely not only in case of rarer characters! There's even an HTML tag for that for God's sake: the HTML Ruby tag.
Yes, ideograms are:
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vertical text (Zong Pai ) is beautiful.
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the top to bottom aspect is obviously due to the binding of bamboo and wooden slips (Jian Du )
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TODO but why right to left? Left to right makes more sense as you don't put your hand on top of the most recent ink: https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Chinese-characters-individually-written-from-left-to-right-yet-in-ancient-times-sentences-of-Chinese-characters-were-written-and-read-from-right-to-left
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_and_vertical_writing_in_East_Asian_scripts#Right-to-left_horizontal_writing also clarifies that traditional shop signs are also right to left, and it is just a sub-case of the usual right to left script, but with a single row
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more historically stable, and you can still read/learn more or less quickly to read texts written more than two thousand years ago
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it takes up way less horizontal space as Ciro noticed while adding bilingual captions to some of the images under https://gitlab.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-media see e.g.: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-media/master/Xidan_Wall.jpg
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on the other hand, you have to use slightly larger fonts for Chinese, because the characters are so dense that if they are not tall enough they become unreadable. Still, the area is much smaller without a doubt.
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single character emoticons like "Jiong ", before the Emoticons Unicode block! Yes, when your language has a character so useless that it becomes an emoticon, maybe you should start to worry that something went wrong somewhere... See also [tank-man-emoticon].
but they just take too much time for any sane person adult to learn, it's harder than C++!
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) smirked when he came across the character "Guan " in Pleco, and the translation was: "meaning unknown (herb mentioned in old books)". Yes, at the word level, the same like exists in phonetic systems, but that it takes up a modern dictionary and Unicode slot is still funny.
He also smiles very broadly whenever his wife finds a character she doesn't remember. Or when she spends 20 seconds tabbing to find the correct character for some Proper name she wants to type in pinyin. It feels good to be right.
Posts that express similar ideas:
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Evil Chinese Characters by Ted Chiang (Pi Yi Zi You Ted Chiang)
4.12.3.1.1. Seal (Yin Zhang )
Seals are also of course top to bottom right to left as in the traditional texts.
4.12.3.1.2. Evil Chinese Characters by Ted Chiang (Pi Yi Zi You Ted Chiang)
Ciro's Does Ciro Santilli speak Chinese? (San Xi Hou Hui Shuo Zhong Wen Ma ?) was mentioned in a related Zhihu answer: Answer to the Zhihu question "How do you evaluate Ted Chiang's 'Evil Chinese Characters' essay?" "Ru He Ping Jie Jiang Feng Nan (Ted Chiang)Zai Niu Yue Ke Shang De Sui Bi <
4.12.4. Is Ciro Santilli a radical? (San Xi Hou Shi Ji Jin Fen Zi Ma ?)
Saying that someone is a radical is useless Ad hominem (Su Zhu Ren Shen ).
If you want to say something useful, give specific reasons why you think one specific thing that Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) said is incorrect.
Do you consider him a radical because it is unthinkable that China is not perfect?
Or just because he's trying to take down some more websites that your dictatorship still does not dislike enough to block: China is fine as it is, stop making it worse (Zhong Guo Hen Hao ,Bie Rang Ta Bian De Geng Zao )?
Don't you think that it is much more radical to be put in jail for your beliefs and silenced if you disagree with anything the government says?
Ciro doesn't think either China or West is perfect: [western-media-has-exaggerated-reports-on-falun-gong-for-propaganda-reasons].
He's just listing arguments why he thinks democracy is better, e.g.: Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (Wei Shi Yao Min Zhu He Yan Lun Zi You Neng Gou Rang Zhong Guo Bian De Geng Jia Fu You ?), Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (Wei Shi Yao Min Zhu He Yan Lun Zi You Hui Rang Zhong Guo Bu Tai Ke Neng Fa Dong Zhan Zheng ?).
See also:
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Ciro Santilli has a preconceived opinion about China that cannot be changed (San Xi Hou Dui Zhong Guo Cheng Jian Hen Shen ,Wu Fa Gai Bian )
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Ciro Santilli and this page are completely biased against the Chinese Government! (San Xi Hou He Ben Ye Wan Quan Dui Zhong Guo Zheng Fu You Pian Jian !)
And Ciro never gets mad. Only a slightly sad or annoyed sometimes.
But maybe no radical ever considers themselves a radical? Hmmm...
4.12.5. Ciro Santilli is stupid (San Xi Hou Shi Ge Sha Gua )
Ad hominem (Su Zhu Ren Shen ).
Feel free to publish any proof of your own incredible intelligence.
4.12.5.1. Ad hominem (Su Zhu Ren Shen )
4.12.6. Is Ciro Santilli a SJW?
SJW: there is a seed of SJW in Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ).
One major difference between Ciro and the stereotypical SJW is that he never engage in lengthy discussions as per Ciro Santilli's reply policy (San Xi Hou De Hui Da Zheng Ce ).
He limits himself to listening as much as he can to learn new arguments.
So the rationale of his actions is no_ to convince anyone, but rather:
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increase the monetary cost of censorship by binding politics to tech with Screen name keyword attack (Wang Ming Shen Cha Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji )
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group up like-minded people who don't like [censorship]
See also: Ciro Santilli has a preconceived opinion about China that cannot be changed (San Xi Hou Dui Zhong Guo Cheng Jian Hen Shen ,Wu Fa Gai Bian )
4.12.6.1. Are you a SJW?
Moved to Is Ciro Santilli a SJW?.
4.12.6.2. Is Ciro Santilli a China watcher? (Pekingologist, San Xi Hou Shi Zhong Guo Guan Cha Zhe Ma ?, Intelligence Analyst)
Yup. Nope? Well, Ciro's what you'll get on GitHub until someone better comes along.
4.12.7. Does Ciro Santilli hate China? (San Xi Hou Tao Yan Zhong Guo Ma ?)
On the contrary. China has his favorite:
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food
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language
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[music]
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history
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nature
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culture, notably:
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intense respect for older people. Whenever Ciro was with his mother-in-law and asked for help from young Chinese people, they were extremely nice.
It is hard to understand how the same people have not managed to speak up when 70 million old ladies were put into jail when Falun Gong was banned. Only the extreme fear of also going to jail could explain it. Living in China is living in constant fear if you can think for yourself.
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enormous importance given to education. One must not forget however: grades are useless, and all that matters is how much you improve society
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And because of that: Would Ciro Santilli like to live in China? (San Xi Hou Xiang Zhu Zai Zhong Guo Ma ?).
As Bjarne said:
There are only two kinds of programming languages: those people always bitch about and those nobody uses
Ciro only focus here on negative things to provide content that will activate the Great Firewall.
A small poem:
Chi Hua Fan Dang
Ai Guo Hen DangSupport the Chinese people, oppose the Party
Love the country, hate the Party
The second sentence well known: https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/e8g3qv/Ai Guo Hen Dang love_china_hate_ccp/
4.12.7.1. If you are against the CCP, then you are against China (Ru Guo Ni Fan Dui Zhong Gong ,Na Yao Ni Jiu Shi Fan Dui Zhong Guo )
This is actually a key cult characteristic: [the-group-is-the-only-way].
Do all Chinese citizens support the CCP?
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Most Chinese people like their dictatorship (Zhong Guo Da Zhong Zhi Chi Ta Men De Du Cai )
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[dissidents]
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Chilling effect (Han Chan Xiao Ying )
If you are against Trump or Biden, does it mean that you are against the USA? So every American is against the USA?
This is what dictatorships want you to believe.
4.12.7.2. Chinese traditional painting (Zhong Guo Chuan Tong Hui Hua )
See also: [museum].
Some free online collections:
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Smithsonian collection at a search for Paintings before 1800. Drill down further by "topic" e.g. "Mountains" or "scholar"
4.12.7.3. Why does Ciro Santilli love China so much? (Wei Shi Yao San Xi Hou Xi Huan Zhong Guo Na Yao Duo ?)
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) does not believe in reincarnation, but sometimes he's tempted to.
It is interesting how different people get different impressions!
Of course, the fact that his wife is Chinese and does Falun Gong may or may not have played a role in it :-)
It was like this: Ciro started getting interested in Chinese culture, then he started hanging out with Chinese people, and then he started hanging out with his wife!
So yes, it is a chicken and egg type of thing. The fact that she is one of the most intelligent, morally upright, cute, and "never give up" person I know may have helped me choose too.
4.12.8. Ciro Santilli's China freedom campaign is selfish (San Xi Hou Shi Zi Si De )
See also:
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Does Ciro Santilli support Falun Gong just because his wife and mother-in-law do it? (San Xi Hou Shi Fou Jin Jin Yin Wei Ta De Qi Zi He Yue Mu Jiu Zhi Chi Fa Lun Gong ?)
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Ciro Santilli's claim to the Qing Dynasty throne (San Xi Hou Qing Zhao Huang Di Ji Yu )
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Does Ciro Santilli want to harm the Chinese programmers? San Xi Hou Xiang Yao Shang Hai Zhong Guo Cheng Xu Yuan Ma ?
4.12.8.1. Ciro Santilli is doing his China freedom campaign to become famous (San Xi Hou Zheng Zai Zuo Ta De Zhong Guo Zi You Yun Dong Yi Cheng Ming )
No, he am a selfless human being, only concerned with the greater well being of humankind.
More serious answer:
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he believes in this. As evidence, it has limiting effects on his technological career: Does your employer support this project? (Ni De Gu Zhu Zhi Chi Ci Xiang Mu Ma ?), and he doesn't think he can/wants to become a politician in China if the CCP ever falls
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the more famous Ciro is, the more impact he will have in the future
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the more famous Ciro is, the more feedback he have that what he's been doing has been working
Keyword: attention whore.
Duplicate pool:
4.12.8.1.1. Ciro Santilli is doing his China freedom campaign because it makes him feel important (CSan Xi Hou Zheng Zai Jin Xing Ta De Zhong Guo Zi You Yun Dong ,Yin Wei Zhe Rang Ta Jue De Zi Ji Hen Zhong Yao )
See: Ciro Santilli is doing his China freedom campaign to become famous (San Xi Hou Zheng Zai Zuo Ta De Zhong Guo Zi You Yun Dong Yi Cheng Ming ).
4.12.8.2. Ciro Santilli is doing his China freedom campaign to vent off his anger (San Xi Hou Zheng Zai Jin Xing Ta De Zhong Guo Zi You Yun Dong Yi Fa Xie Ta De Fen Nu )
No, he is not angry at all, see also: Does Ciro Santilli want to harm the Chinese programmers? San Xi Hou Xiang Yao Shang Hai Zhong Guo Cheng Xu Yuan Ma ?.
4.12.8.3. Is Ciro Santilli's china-dictatorship campaign funded or otherwise supported by some organization? Shui Shou Mai San Xi Hou San Bu Guan Yu Zhong Guo De Yao Yan ?
Sure, the CIA sends Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) 10 thousand USD checks from time to time, but that doesn't change at all what he would be doing.
And sometimes the NSA, FBI, MI6, MI5, Mossad, Al-Qaeda and ISIS also pitch in a bit depending on their needs.
Just kidding.
A shady supporting organization might require that he does not disclose their support, so maybe the best answer is that you will never know for sure.
Of course, a hidden support would represent a reputation hit for both such organizations and for Ciro, which makes it less likely that I would have accepted or had such an offer.
Also consider Ciro's motivation. If your mother in law were put into jail unfairly for 15 days, for following the same religion that your wife follows, and if you had a social media presence, wouldn't you be tempted to do the same?
What about you, are you funded by the CCP?
The fact that Ciro Santilli is obviously a real full time software engineer based on his open source contributions, and so does not need government funding, is perhaps the single greatest advantage of not having carried this campaign anonymously:
It's nothing world breaking, but it is at a level where it simply cannot be faked.
4.12.9. Would Ciro Santilli be doing his China freedom campaign if he was in China? (Ru Guo Ta Zai Zhong Guo ,San Xi Hou Hui Zuo Ta De Zhong Guo Zi You Yun Dong Ma ?)
Not with his real name attached to it, see also:
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What should pro-democracy Chinese living in China do about the dictatorship? Xiang Yao Min Zhu Zhu Zai Zhong Guo Da Lu De Ren Ying Gai Gan Shi Yao ?
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Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (Wai Guo Ren Bu Ying Gai Gan Yu Zhong Guo Zheng Zhi )
4.12.9.1. Does your employer support this project? (Ni De Gu Zhu Zhi Chi Ci Xiang Mu Ma ?)
My employer has nothing to do with this.
He doesn't approve or disapprove of the Chinese government or of my private actions.
The only thing that my employer does believe in is that employees can have their own political opinions, and that this should not affect hiring decisions.
Obviously, this action limits my ability to lead high profile deals with China.
Also I'm quite curious if this would limit my ability to go to China for business, but I haven't applied for a visa since I've started this. It likely wouldn't be a good idea for me to go to China :-)
But my employer believes that inclusion and non-discrimination are more valuable.
I will always do my best to not let my personal opinions affect my professional decisions, as that would be unfair to my employer.
4.12.10. Doesn't Ciro Santilli have anything better to do than pissing off China? (Chu Liao Fan Dui Zhong Gong Yi Wai ,San Xi Hou You Mei You Bie De Geng Hao De Shi Er Yao Zuo Ma ?)
In 1989, besides [tiananmen] and Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De )'s birth, a beautiful thing called the World Wide Web was invented!
The Internet gives everyone the magic power of writing something, and having million people read it for free!
This is how much time Ciro spends on this project to give you an idea:
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every day or two, some wumao or anti-CCP person sends a message, to which Ciro replies, and sometimes does an update
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Ciro used to check https://www.reddit.com/r/China daily amongst many other programming subs, and all major bad news show up there. See also: Anti-CCP information sources (Fan Zhong Gong Xin Xi Lai Yuan ). But he stopped in 2022, even that was not worth the time.
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when something bad enough comes up, Ciro might spend some time updating his keyword attack. He used to check https://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/sensitive-words-series/ by [china-digital-times], to help, but hasn't needed mor recently. He's only been updating it on Stack Overflow and GitHub attacks these days.
Then Ciro just contributes to programming websites exactly as he would if he weren't making this campaign, and voila.
What has happened more and more is that Ciro has been expanding resources by short burst rather than continuously. This began especially at the end of 2019 and start of 2020 was such as hot year with [hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019] and Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019Guan Zhuang Bing Du Bing Zao Qi Ji Xiang Shen Cha ).
But Ciro only works on this when his brain was too tired of technical stuff and unable to do more, or as a brain warm up routine in the morning. So it doesn't take any work time away from him.
Telling the CCP to fuck off is surprisingly relaxing, you should try it some time too. It uses a different part of your brain other than the programming one. It is, one could say, an art form.
4.12.11. Is Ciro Santilli against Communism/Socialism in general or just against the Chinese Communist Party specifically?
Anti-dictatorship and censorship, not anti-communist in general. In this project, Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) has sometimes used the word "communist/commie" loosely as a shortcut for "supporter of the CCP", but it does not extend by default to communism in general.
Most importantly, China is far from being socialist or communist. It is just a dictatorship with savage capitalism. Exactly like Nazi Germany.
It is true that the CCP takes greater control of corporations, as shown e.g. in the Tech Crackdown of 2021, which is also something Ciro Santilli has asked for in the West, see also: https://cirosantilli.com/governments-have-lost-all-power-to-companies
But to call it communist or socialist is a joke. There are no big specific benefits to citizens that are not already present in capitalist countries. It is nothing like the Soviet Union, where people had actual job guarantees, and everything provieded for (in theory).
And Ciro has a fundamental and irrational belief that we should not violate human rights to reach those goals, which is why he opposes the CCP (and others who violate human rights).
Also, being in a dictatorship is very risky business, see: Most Chinese people don't care about the minorities (Da Duo Shu Zhong Guo Ren Bu Guan Xin Shao Shu Min Zu ), Dictatorships have greater development variability (Zhuan Zheng Ju You Geng Da De Fa Zhan Ke Bian Xing ).
And there are concrete advantages to dictatorships.
Classify Ciro's techno-political goals as you will:
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endgame: https://cirosantilli.com/unconditional-basic-income
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very conservative and clearly sustainable neargame: https://cirosantilli.com/free-gifted-education
A possible way to get closer to either: https://cirosantilli.com/electronic-voting
Anything in between however, he's not sure about.
4.13. People in China have already considered democracy, and rejected it (Zhong Guo Ren Yi Jing Kao Lu Yao Bu Yao Min Zhu , Dao Di Jue Ding Bu Yao Liao )
OK, shall we put that to an anonymous vote just to make sure?
Dear sir or madam: do you want more control over your government? y/n
Oops, I forgot that proposing such a vote would put in you jail, never mind.
4.14. Would it be right to use violence to overthrow the CCP? (Yong Bao Li Tui Fan Zhong Gong Zheng Que Ma ?)
In an ideal world, Ciro Santilli is of course "against violence".
But what if you could prevent a lot of future violence with some violence today?
Ah, the eternal question which only God can answer:
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https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-origin-of-the-quote-The-end-justifies-the-means "What is the origin of the quote 'The end justifies the means?'"
Do you really think that the communists will step down if you ask them nicely enough? Even after [tiananmen]?
A quote from V for Vendetta (2005) comes to mind:
Q: If they do, what do you think will happen [the people protest against their Government]?
A: What usually happens when people without guns stand up to people with guns.
How do you think the CCP or any other party got into power and maintained that power in the first place? Obviously through violence. And likely due to earlier Japanese invasions which weakened the Guomindang.
And the CCP actually uses "the ends justify the means" as an argument to justify its own actions: As long as China is developing economically, it is fine to violate the human rights of a few million people (Zhi Yao Jing Ji Hao ,Wo Bu Zai Hu Ren Quan ).
The question of if anything is morally right or wrong makes no sense. All that matters is: what is the government that maximizes the happines of its own people, and who has the power to do what? Getting richer, is part of the equation, but so is not being constantly affraid that you will be randomly put in jail for no good reason.
If you do decide to strike though, stay safe, gather your forces on the Internet, and only strike when victory seems certain.
For "violence is illegal" arguments, see also: [follow-the-law].
4.14.1. Second amendment (Mei Guo Xian Fa Di Er Xiu Zheng An )
If China had the second amendment in 1989, the [ccp] would not be in power in 1990.
It is better to have a bit of random shootings every day, than to have a full scale revolution every 20 years.
The availability of guns however only explains part of the problem of gun violence in the USA: the other huge thing that must be addressed is to reduce inequality.
A somewhat popular [wumao] criticism of gun violence in the USA (+ other problems) in song/poem form was brought up at cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#215
Ge Song Mei Guo
Zi You Mei Li Jian ,
Qiang Ji Mei Yi Tian ;
Bai Hen Hei Bei Wei ,
Hei Chou Huang You Qian .
Shi Jie Di Yi Qiang ,
Chuan Pu Zai Hao Qiang ;
Xin Guan Qi Shi Lu ,
Qun Ti Mian Yi Fa ;
Bi Qiang Huan Geng Qiang ,
Shi Jie Yi Bing Fu .
Ru Jin Wu Shi Mo ,
Ye Su Ai Mei Guo ,
Yu Min Tian Guo Huan .
Ren Ming Ru Cao Jie ,
Bu Ji Gu Shi Gui ;
Zhan Huo Lian Zhong Dong ,
Ci Nai Zhen Min Zhu .
Related discussions:
TODO origin?
4.15. Why does Ciro Santilli say that China is a dictatorship? (Zhong Guo Bu Shi Du Cai !)
Ciro is using the word in an slightly extended/joking sense.
Maybe "authoritarian" is a more precise term, but it is just too much of a mouthful.
In particular, dictatorships are harder to sustain than authoritarianism, since it generally implies even less freedom, and a single leader whose death can destabilize everything.
The CCP is more like a social class with a large number of members and various sub-layers, and it is therefore much harder to take down on the other hand.
Dictatorship is becoming more and more precise under Xi however.
Even [mao-zedong] admits it and put it into the constitution: People's democratic dictatorship Ren Min Min Zhu Zhuan Zheng , so funny.
Well known Evil Western media that also call China a dictatorship:
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2020-01-29 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/29/opinion/coronavirus-china-government.html "Coronavirus Spreads, and the World Pays for China's Dictatorship"
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2018-03-04 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/04/xi-jinping-from-president-to-china-new-dictator "Xi Jinping's power play: from president to China's new dictator?"
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2017-10-11 https://www.ft.com/content/cb2c8578-adb4-11e7-aab9-abaa44b1e130 "Under Xi Jinping, China is turning back to dictatorship"
Further discussions about this useless terminology question:
4.15.1. Where can I find good words for a keyword attack? (Wo Zai Na Li Ke Yi Zhao Dao Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji De Hao Ci ?)
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List of blacklisted keywords in China
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[china-digital-times] This is was an amazing source, extremely comprehensive and up-to-date, but the series was stopped in September 2018:
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https://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/word-of-the-week/?view=all word of the week, ran from Mar 7, 2012 to Sep 20, 2018
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https://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/cdt-censorship-digest/ "CDT CENSORSHIP DIGEST", monthly version of Word of the week started on Feb 10, 2020
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https://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/directives-from-the-ministry-of-truth/?view=all censorship directive reports
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https://chinadigitaltimes.net/space/Main_Page a wiki version of the censored word lists, the ,"Grass-mud horse index" (cao3n2ma3 Cao Ni Ma ), with a censored term of the week section.
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https://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/sensitive-words-series/?view=all sensitive words list
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Fun 2015 ebook: https://github.com/cirosantilli/decoding-chinese-internet-pdf-download
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Has received funding from US Government to some extent: https://www.ned.org/china-digital-times-provides-crucial-insight-and-information-about-china-and-the-covid-19/
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See also:
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[censorship-monitoring]
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[tiananmen-square-protests-keywords]
4.15.1.1. How does Ciro Santilli choose keywords for the keyword attack? (San Xi Hou Ru He Wei Guan Jian Ci Gong Ji Xuan Ze Guan Jian Ci ?)
I haven't counted, but the limit for Stack Overflow is quite low, and I'm always almost at the maximum, which is about "Ciro Santilli" + 3 3-4 Chinese character events with a separator.
These are some of my prioritization guidelines:
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recent cases receive a large prime over the raw death toll, because older cases can always be attributed to other people.
E.g., I've heard there is even some opening towards acknowledging the Great Famine, thus Wu Kan Shi Jian (and others from my previous profile names)
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words must refer to a precise event, and must be clearly summarizable in very few chars, for increased impact, and profile name length limitations.
E.g. "High corruption rates, high pollution", although very serious, feel too generic.
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events that relate directly to freedom of speech receive a prime, since they can only happen in China and very few other countries.
E.g.: [falun-gong], [tiananmen].
Non e.g.: corruption and pollution. Those are hard to quantify, and there is always an immediate reply: china GDP per capita is low, same happens in India, Brazil, etc.
Freedom of speech however, is immediately verifiable (e.g. "my Weibo was taken down"), and undeniably caused by the current central government.
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the more people affected, and the more deeply they have been affected, the more important obviously
I am currently trying to maintain in my Stack Overflow Location a ranking of events in a single string, so that it can be easily copy pasted around. The location appears on every page if you hover over my account name, so it is likely in the HTML at least.
If you think that this list can be improved, please open an issue explaining how and why.
4.15.2. Other notable keyword attacks (Qi Ta Zhi De Zhu Yi De Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji )
4.15.2.1. Notepad++
It might be a newbie text editors for newbie Windows users, but at least they use it to good use by doing keyword attacks:
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2019-10: "In October 2019 Notepad++'s GitHub issue tracker was flooded with pro-Chinese and anti-western messages after a version codenamed "Free Uyghur" (v7.8.1) was released"
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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/31/notepad_china_spam/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/dp3icm/notepad_after_voicing_their_support_for_the/ "Notepad++, after voicing their support for the Uyghurs, is now being bombarded by Chinese nationalists on Github." See e.g.: notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus#7489 and earlier issues
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2008-03: "In March 2008 the "Boycott Beijing 2008" banner was placed on Notepad++'s SourceForge.net homepage": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerns_and_controversies_over_the_2008_Summer_Olympics#Boycotts
The creator appears to be a Vietnamese immigrant or descendant living in France. There are many such immigrants due to Vietnam being an ex-colony: https://github.com/donho Also he must have good reason to dislike the commies due to similar commit bullshit in Vietnam. He was at Paris Diderot in 2000: https://donho.github.io/#education (archive).
4.15.2.1.1. Notepad++ Chinese browsers block (2020)
https://techcrunch.com/2020/08/17/notepad-plus-plus-blocked-in-china/ "Text editor Notepad++ banned in China after 'Stand With Hong Kong' update" where "banned" means "the download page where they keywords are shown is now blocked in Chinese browsers". The rest of the website is still up. So no domain block due to HTTPS, browser only action for now.
This is an example of [chinese-web-browser-censorship].
4.16. What should all pro-democracy people do about China? (Suo You De Min Zhu Pai Ren Shi Ying Gai Gan Shi Yao ?)
A propaganda slogan from a French Resistance (Fa Guo Di Kang Yun Dong ) flyer (see also Comparisons between the CCP and Nazi Germany (Na Cui De Guo He Zhong Gong Chang De Hen Xiang )):
To obey is to betray.
To disobey is to serve.Fu Cong Jiu Shi Bei Pan
Wei Kang Jiu Shi Fu WuObeir c'est trahir.
Desobeir c'est servir.
4.16.1. Civil disobedience (Gong Min Bu Fu Cong )
4.16.1.1. Lie Flat movement (Tang Ping Zhu Yi )
The movement notably contradicts one of the [core-socialist-values]: dedication (Jing Ye ).
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2021-07-04 https://www.scmp.com/comment/letters/article/3139558/what-chinas-lie-flat-youth-and-global-climate-strikers-have-common What China's 'lie flat' youth and global climate strikers have in common by [scmp]
Good cat lying down meme: https://www.marxist.com/china-lie-flat.htm
4.16.1.1.1. Little girl has ho hopes for school video (2021, Xiao Gu Niang Dui Xue Xiao Mei You Xi Wang )
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https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/pgrei5/so_much_lying_flat_sass_translation_in_comments/ on r/China Reddit sub
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Original poster:
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username: 11223344zslk
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profile page: https://www.douyin.com/user/MS4wLjABAAAA0HYKMT79Af9VeCnrjZ7m_9XrbzSR9IHG_08Cdeo5LMnbNYANllleThIZlY3BFpgC
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original video censored
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short URL: https://v.douyin.com/d2Dq1bb/
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Transcript and translation:
Ni Hai Pa Kai Xue Ma ?
Sui Bian .
Dui Zhe Ge Xue Xiao You Shi Yao Qi Dai Ma ?
Mei You .
Wei Shi Yao Ni ?
Bu Zhi Dao .
Xin Xue Qi You Shi Yao Xin De Yuan Wang Ma ?
He ?
Xin Xue Qi You Shi Yao Xin De Yuan Wang Ma ?
Mei You .
Mei You Wang A .
Ni Yi Dian Xin Yuan Du Mei Ma ? You Mei You Xiao Xin Yuan A ?
Mei You .
Xi Wang Zen Yao Yang You Mei You ?
Mei You Xi Wang .Are you afraid of starting school?
Whatever.
What are you looking forward in this school?
Nothing.
Why?
I don't know.
What hopes do you have for new school term?
Huh?
What hopes do you have for new school term?
None.
Hmmm, you don't have any hopes.
You don't have any small wishes?
None.
What about hopes?
I have no hope.
Note: Mei You Xi Wang . would likely more accurately be translated as "I have no hopes for school". But the same sentence also means "I have no hope", and it was too tempting to recast it in terms of the Lie Flat movement.
On the background sign, we read:
Er Zhong Qing Long Wan Xiao Xue Xiao Shi Yang Guang Tai
Sunshine Terrace (? announcement board) of the teachers of the Qinglongwan Elementary School No. 2
The school is mentioned in a news report from 2020 at: https://moment.rednet.cn/pc/content/2020/08/24/8249389.html Shi Er Zhong Qing Long Wan Xiao Xue 9Yue 1Ri Jiang Ying Lai Shou Pi Xue Sheng (City No. 2 Middle School Qinglongwan Primary School will welcome its first batch of students on September 1st) which says it is located at Qinglongwan Town, Lukou District in [hunan] (Qing Long Wan Xiao Zhen , Zhu Zhou Xian ,)
4.16.2. Photobombing-like attacks
Explicitly forbidden in China by the law: [real-username-law].
See also:
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[marina-ovsyannikova]
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Screen name keyword attack (Wang Ming Shen Cha Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji )
4.16.2.1. Appropriation attack
An appropriation attack is one where the attackers attempt to associate an existing symbol to their cause.
For example during the [hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019] attackers attempted to use this technique to associate a generic Chinese Chun-Li-like character Mei from Blizzard's Overwatch game to try and get it blocked in China after the gaming company punished a pro gamer for defending the Hong Kong protests. Coverage https://www.businessinsider.com/blizzard-fans-overwatch-mei-hong-kong-protests-memes-2019-10 (archive).
4.16.2.2. Sport event live broadcast image attacks (Ti Yu Sai Shi Zhi Bo Tu Pian Gong Ji )
NBA in particular is super popular in China, and people sitting at the front row can easily bomb emissions due to the small court size:
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China's [tencent] halts NBA live broadcast over Taiwanese flag
Started in particular due to the [lebron-james-opposes-hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019]
4.16.2.2.1. Enes Kanter's shoes (Ai Nei Si *Kan Te , NBA)
TODO any good shots of him wearing the shoes while playing?
4.16.3. What should Western countries do about China? (Xi Fang Guo Jia Ying Gai Zen Yao Dui Dai Zhong Guo ?)
Force all their Western servers to accept [ensi] connections only: [ensi].
Western governments must reciprocate unfair Chinese practices: https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/18508/why-dont-western-countries-penalize-chinese-companies-in-the-same-way-that-chin
Companies only care about money and have no long term view, the following must be imposed by governments on Western companies.
Serious sanctions must be pot on companies that sell sensitive things to dictatorships:
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censorship or anti-privacy software
Related approaches taken by the CCP that should also be stopped dead by strict enforcement of the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA):
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Chinese interference in Western media (Zhong Guo Gan Yu Xi Fang Mei Ti ), notably China watch (2011-), must
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[ccp-apologists]
Physical presence influence must be completely blocked, e.g. cultural centers that report directly to the CCP such as Confucius institute (Kong Zi Xue Yuan ) and Chinese Students and Scholars Association (CSSA, Zhong Guo Xue Sheng Xue Zhe Lian He Hui ) must be banned.
News about Chinese state media using Western social media:
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2016 https://qz.com/671211/chinas-propaganda-outlets-have-leaped-the-top-of-facebook-even-though-it-banned-at-home/ "China's propaganda news outlets are absolutely crushing it on Facebook"
Accounts that are not labelled as being from the Chinese government, but which support the CCP, must be investigated to determine if they are actually funded by the Chinese government.
TODO what to do with websites of: [chinese-government-media]? Blocking them has the downsides that:
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it would be harder to monitor what crazy shit the commies are doing
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those censorship mechanisms could be reused to block good websites by Western governments that are becoming Evil
Let's just leave them up to start with, who gives a fuck about them? :-) If they are getting too many page views, we can make search engines add the disclaimer too.
Chinese social media such as [wechat] and [tiktok] must be banned. This is less serious than regular websites, because you can always repost on Western social media but without getting spied on:
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2020-08-07 https://www.engadget.com/tiktok-wechat-executive-order-014615752.html "Trump executive order seeks to ban TikTok, [wechat] 'transactions' in 45 days"
Whenever China kicks out a western journalist who is in China and reports there, the Western country must do the same and kick out a Chinese journalists for a Chinese media.
An upside of restricting Chinese servies is that it would hugely bolster [censorship-circumvention] technologies, as every Chinese expat would need to buy a VPN.
Western governments must identify raw material dependencies on China, and reduce them, while at the same time forbidding technology transfer to China. China has been trading cheap resources for technology, and we must stop that now.
Unfair Chinese commercial practices must be reciprocated. Chinese companies should be forced to open joint ventures to operate outside of China, which is a trick China uses to control profits and more easily steal IP from Western companies:
Sanctions must be imposed directly on Chinese officials. They must not be allowed to "escape to a better life or have investments in the West":
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2020-08-08 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53699084 "Hong Kong: US imposes sanctions on chief executive Carrie Lam"
4.16.3.1. Mark government controlled social media (Jiang Zheng Fu Kong Zhi De She Jiao Mei Ti Zhang Hu Biao Ji Wei Ci Lei )
All posts of all state-sponsored social media accounts must be clearly marked as such.
This should be done not only for China, but of all countries, including Western democracies.
Even better, they should add funny censored images on top of those that are from dictatorship countries.
Furthermore, marked media from dictatorships must be forbidden to both monetize and pay to promote its content.
Any outlets that do not announce themselves as state sponsored but are, must be banned forever when they are found out.
What to do about personal accounts is much harder to decide however, and especially so in the case of [ccp-apologists], where they might really not be state sponsored, and the creator's nationality won't help make the decision either.
Some websites have started marking such accounts, which is a great start.
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YouTube in 2018: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/2/16964190/youtube-state-funded-broadcasters
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Facebook in 2020: https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/04/facebook-adds-labels-identifying-state-controlled-media/
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Twitter in 2020:
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example from https://twitter.com/PDChina [peoples-daily] marked as "China state-affiliated media" and links to https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/state-affiliated-china
Reports of Chinese influence on social media:
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2020-06 Twitter has also implicated in receiving advertising money from [china-daily], see also: China watch (2011-)
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2020-06-12 https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/information-operations-june-2020.html
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2020-06-12 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jun/12/twitter-deletes-170000-accounts-linked-to-china-influence-campaign "Twitter deletes 170,000 accounts linked to China influence campaign"
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The Chinese government later contested this decision: https://variety.com/2020/digital/asia/china-victim-wants-twitter-to-delete-attackers-1234633860/
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2020-04-07 https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/9397v8/chinas-been-flooding-facebook-with-shady-ads-blaming-trump-for-the-coronavirus-crisis "China's Been Flooding Facebook With Shady Ads Blaming Trump for the Coronavirus Crisis"
4.16.3.2. China spy stories (Zhong Guo Jian Die Gu Shi )
Do not underestimate the CCP and its control over every Chinese companies and people. Every Chinese company and person is a potential spy.
This is true for all countries however, and Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) does not not reproach China specifically for its secret service, e.g. Snowden (Si Nuo Deng ) used Dell as an NSA front-end.
The point is just that the West should not underestimate this menace that comes from a Why does Ciro Santilli say that China is a dictatorship? (Zhong Guo Bu Shi Du Cai !).
For university espionage in particular see: University espionage (Da Xue Jian Die ).
Some Chinese spy stories:
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2020-03-20 Tarmo Kouts from Estonia
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https://news.err.ee/1608148489/court-sentences-estonian-marine-scientist-to-prison-for-spying-for-china "Court sentences Estonian marine scientist to prison for spying for China"
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2020-12-25 https://in.news.yahoo.com/detention-10-chinese-spies-afghanistan-040901520.html "Detention of 10 Chinese spies in Afghanistan leaves Beijing red-faced" TODO better source.
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2020-12-09 Christine Fang https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2dfb99-f839-4e00-8bd8-59dec0daf589.html "Exclusive: Suspected Chinese spy targeted California politicians". In 2015, she was fucking some politicians and infiltrating parties, but as suspicions arose, Beijing likely called her back.
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2020-09-21 Baimadajie Angwang
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https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/09/21/nypd-cop-charged-with-acting-as-china-agent.html "New York City police officer spied on fellow Tibetans for China, prosecutors charge"
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2020-08-21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3hwdsbh6-M "I worked for the Chinese State Department - Zhong Gong Jiao Yu Dang Wei - offcn CCP Committee" more info at [aaron-dewitt]
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2019-01-15 Kevin Mallory
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2019-01-15 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46557096 "Kevin Mallory: The churchgoing patriot who spied for China"
Good profile. He was first approached via LinkedIn. As a related case, Jun Wei Yeo was arrested as LinkedIn spy recruiter in 2020: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-53544505
And those stupid Chines handlers gave him a phone that was supposed to be encrypted, but it crashed and then rebooted unencrypted, right when the FBI agents were around.
But after the 2008 real estate crash, his fortunes changed. His house plummeted in value, and later he lost his job.
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2019-04-04 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/how-230-000-debt-linkedin-message-led-ex-cia-officer-n990691 "How a $230,000 debt and a LinkedIn message led an ex-CIA officer to spy for China"
Good profile, gives important points: he was 230k in debt, and "Mallory began reaching out to former CIA colleagues in an apparent effort to pump them for information. The ex-colleagues grew suspicious and contacted the CIA, prosecutors say."
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2019-05-18 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48319058 "Kevin Mallory: Ex-CIA agent jailed for spying for China".
The article also contains a good summary section "CIA spy operation in China: Key dates".
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2019-11: Wang Liqiang spy defection to Australia
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2019-11: Jerry Chun Shing Lee, naturalized American, convicted for being double agent while working at CIA after being in custody for 2 years
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2018-06-05 Ron Rockwell Hansen
[[2010-dismantling-of-cia-s-network-in-china-2010]] ====== 2010 dismantling of CIA's network in China (2010 Chai Chu Zhong Qing Ju Zai Hua Wang Luo )
Around2010-2012 about 20 CIA spies in China were killed. One was shot right in the courtyard of a government building as a message to others.
After identifying some of the websites, possibly with a double agent, Iran was able to reach the rest through Google searches for similar sites.
The trouble started in when the CIA was investigating nuclear weapons in Iran in 2009.
The fact that China soon followed could indicate that Iran sold the secret to China.
TODO do we have any such sample websites or screenshots of them? cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#167
https://news.yahoo.com/cias-communications-suffered-catastrophic-compromise-started-iran-090018710.html mentions that:
A 2011 Iranian television broadcast that touted the government's destruction of the CIA network said U.S. intelligence operatives had created websites for fake companies to recruit agents in Iran by promising them jobs, visas and education abroad. Iranians who initially thought they were responding to legitimate opportunities would end up meeting with CIA officers in places like Dubai or Istanbul for recruitment, according to the broadcast.
therefore the websites might not have been in English.
TODO find that broadcast. News broke 2019-06-22[] apparently: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMilJGTIvkI "US calls for Iran to free alleged CIA spy" by euronews (in English) (2011-12-20) shows a forced confession on state television by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Mirza_Hekmati. He claims to have been tortured with forced drug withdrawal. Given that Iran is in the Golden Crescent, Ciro would guess they gave him heroin, see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_in_Iran "Opium in Iran is widely available, and the country was thought to have the highest per capita number of opiate addicts in the world[1][2] at a rate of 2.8% of Iranians over age 15."
Iran claims to have captured spies working for CIA
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2017-05-20 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-espionage-idUSKCN18G0UM "China killed CIA sources, hobbled U.S. spying from 2010 to 2012: NYT"
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2018-10-02 https://news.yahoo.com/cias-communications-suffered-catastrophic-compromise-started-iran-090018710.html "The CIA's communications suffered a catastrophic compromise. It started in Iran."
4.16.3.2.1. Ministry of State Security (MSS, Guoanbu, Guo An Bu )
The Chinese counterintelligence organ.
Report website launched in 2018 https://www.12339.gov.cn/, some coverage:
4.16.3.2.2. People's Liberation Army (PLA, Zhong Guo Ren Min Jie Fang Jun , Jie Fang Jun , People's Oppression Army, Zhen Ya Jun )
The Chinese army, and also one of the central intelligence agencies, notably on cyberattacks.
As highlighted on [the-gate-of-heavenly-peace-1995] 1:41, the PLA were really thought of as heroes of the people, partly due to Mao-era propaganda, as their name indicates. But when they stepped into Tiananmen, some of that was lost.
4.16.3.3. The West must ban the Chinese telecommunications software and hardware (Xi Fang Bi Xu Jin Zhi Zhong Guo Dian Xin Ruan Jian He Ying Jian )
They are an entry point to spying, censorship and Fake news (Jia Xin Wen ). Notable companies that should be banned:
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[huawei]
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[tiktok]
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[zoom]
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[alibaba]
Reports:
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2020-02 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-media/u-s-imposes-new-rules-on-state-owned-chinese-media-over-propaganda-concerns-idUSKBN20C2G1 U.S. imposes new rules on state-owned Chinese media over propaganda concerns, the companies are: Xinhua News Agency, China Global Television Network, China Radio International, China Daily Distribution Corp. and Hai Tian Development USA, Inc. See also: [chinese-government-media].
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2020-04-03 https://theintercept.com/2020/04/03/zooms-encryption-is-not-suited-for-secrets-and-has-surprising-links-to-china-researchers-discover/ 'Zoom's encryption is "not suited for secrets" and has surprising links to china, researchers discover"
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4.16.3.4. What should Western media do about China? (Xi Fang Mei Ti Ying Gai Zen Yao Dui Dai Zhong Guo ?)
When you report something about a person, for fuck's sake include the person's name in the title of the article, at the very least the pinyin.
Then, in the body, also add the corresponding Chinese characters on the first mention. This is how you do it: "San Xihou (San Xi Hou )"
Yes, Chinese people also have names. And yes, pinyin has infinitely more homonyms than characters.
In the body of the article, notably in photos, include the exact location of the event if applicable.
City at the very least, but if recognizable, where withing the city.
Yes, China is big! There are many different places in China.
4.16.4. Western companies that comply with Chinese censorship requests (Zun Shou Zhong Guo Shen Cha Yao Qiu De Xi Fang Gong Si )
Western governments should prevent companies from complying to Chinese censorship requests, or at least impose fines and sanctions on them.
Citizens should boycott such companies and require them to be punished.
See also: [western-companies-that-sell-censorship-technology-to-dictatorships]
Some hell known companies and events:
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2022 https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/intel-deletes-reference-to-xinjiang-after-backlash-in-china Intel deletes reference to Xinjiang after backlash in China
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2020 Hololive Kiryu Coco firing incident (Hololive Tai Wan Shi Jian , 2020)
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2020 Outfront Media, see: [lebron-james-opposes-hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019]
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2020-02 https://theintercept.com/2020/02/18/mike-bloomberg-lp-nda-china/ "When Bloomberg News's Reporting on China Was Challenged, Bloomberg Tried to Ruin Me for Speaking Out"
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2019-12 Shutterstock implements censorship for searches from China https://techcrunch.com/2019/12/08/in-wake-of-shutterstocks-chinese-censorship-american-companies-need-to-relearn-american-values/
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JPMorgan
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2016-11 "Sons and Daughters" corruption hiring program for chidren of government officials: https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2016/11/17/jpmorgan-agrees-to-pay-264-million-fine-for-sons-and-daughters-hiring-program-in-china/#46746e305688
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4.16.4.1. Apple (Ping Guo )
Summaries:
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https://applecensorship.com App Store monitoring by [greatfire], source: https://github.com/greatfire/applecensorship
News:
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2021-06-08 https://techcrunch.com/2021/06/07/apple-private-relay-unavailable-in-china/ Apple's new encrypted browsing feature won't be available in China, Saudi Arabia and more: report
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2020-03-01 https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/01/china-roundup-apple-closes-app-store-loophole/ "China Roundup: Apple closes a 4-year-old App Store loophole"
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2019-04-12 https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/12/18305087/congress-apple-criticism-china-communist-tiananmen-pro-democracy "Lawmakers lash out at Apple for censoring a song about Tiananmen Square protests"
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1999 https://www.lionsroar.com/apple-thinks-different-about-the-dalai-lama-in-china-2/ Apple censors [dalai-lama] for China
4.16.4.2. LinkedIn (Ling Ying )
Immediately censors anything that the Chinese government asks to censor in China.
3 days after Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) put up anti-CCP messages on his LinkedIn, the account was banned in China, with a message under https://www.linkedin.com/help/linkedin/cases/36977487:
Hi Ciro,
Your LinkedIn profile is an integral part of how you present your professional self to the world. That's why we believe it's important to inform you that due to the presence of prohibited content located in the headline, background image and volunteer experience sections of your LinkedIn profile, your profile and your public activity, such as your comments and items you share with your network, will not be made viewable in China. Your profile and activity continues to remain viewable throughout the rest of the countries in which LinkedIn is available. We will work with you to minimize the impact and can review your profile's accessibility within China if you update the headline, background image and volunteer experience sections of your profile. But the decision whether to update your profile is yours.
In February 2014, we began offering a localized version of LinkedIn in China. We believe that people everywhere can benefit from Chinese individuals connecting with each other and LinkedIn members in other parts of the world, and that the creation of economic opportunity can have a profound impact on their lives and the lives of their families and communities.
While we strongly support freedom of expression, we recognized when we launched that we would need to adhere to the requirements of the Chinese government in order to operate in China. As a reminder, your profile will remain viewable throughout the rest of the countries in which LinkedIn is available.
If you have any questions, please contact Customer Service.
Regards,
LinkedIn Support Team
2021-10-14 https://techcrunch.com/2021/10/14/microsoft-to-pull-linkedin-from-chinese-market/ Microsoft to pull LinkedIn from Chinese market
The leading Chinese clone appear to be MaiMai (Mai Mai ):
300M investment and not even an English Wikipedia page, we live on different planets: https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mai Mai
Interestingly however, Ciro still received some profile views from Chinese profiles from time to time, he wonders why, do they have a permit of some sort? E.g.:
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2021-12-30 someone from Hong Shan Qu Gong An Fen Ju from Hongshan Public Security sub-department in Hongshan, Inner Mongolia
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2021-09-29 someone from Bei Jing Yun Zhong Rong Xin Wang Luo Ke Ji You Xian Gong Si https://baike.baidu.com/item/Bei Jing Yun Zhong Rong Xin Wang Luo Ke Ji You Xian Gong Si /17048165, an instant messaging services company.
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2021-09-17 Weber Shandwick
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https://www.webershandwick.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/2021-Geopolitical-Risk-Report.pdf 2021 REPORT ON GEOPOLITICAL RISKS TO BUSINESS REPUTATION by Weber Shandwick's geopolitical Risk & Reputation Advisory Group
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2021-08-09 https://www.linkedin.com/in/Jia Wei -Yan -bbbb60218/ Yan Jia Wei Ling Ying Zhong Guo - Nei Rong Shen He (Yan Jiawei), LinkedIn China, content audit based in Beijing. One of the censors mistakently viewed Ciro's profile without premium or internal tools! Hello. Started working there June 2021, no further personal information available.
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2021-07-29:
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custommer service person from [huawei]
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financial consultant from Beijing
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2021-05-23 LinkedIn profile view from https://www.linkedin.com/company/circussocial/ Circus Social https://www.circussocial.com/. Some of their China stuff: https://www.circussocial.com/blog/tag/china-social-media/
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2021-03-23 https://my.cscglobal.com/ to cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship another compliance company, previous https://cms.securimate.com hits come to mind. China related articles:
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https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200728005641/en/CSC-Becomes-First-Foreign-Owned-Company-to-Receive-Domain-Registrar-License-in-China this company has some serious weight with Chinese regulators!
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https://www.cscglobal.com/service/webinar/china-web-policies/ talks mostly about ICP licenses
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https://www.cscglobal.com/cscglobal/pdfs/DBS/CSC-Your-Brand-Secured.pdf features Jayce Yeo, and mentions social media management
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https://medium.com/@hackermaderas/the-beginning-of-one-hackers-thoroughly-referenced-evidenced-osint-investigation-of-clearview-ai-1aa2e9109492 has a technical analysis that points that CSC has links to Clearview AI, and seem to be front-companies
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[brave-new-world-books] comes to mind.
They also have a [anonymous-account-ban] policy for all countries:
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https://www.linkedin.com/help/linkedin/answer/28422/names-allowed-on-profiles you have to use your real name
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https://www.linkedin.com/help/linkedin/topics/6042/6059/430 you have to use your real photo
Related:
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2021-09 Bethany Allen-Ebrahimian https://hongkongfp.com/2021/09/29/microsofts-linkedin-censors-us-journalist-over-china-content-makes-disturbing-offer-for-reinstatement/
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2021-03-11 https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/11/tech/linkedin-china-microsoft-intl-hnk/index.html "LinkedIn suspends new sign-ups in China":
We're a global platform with an obligation to respect the laws that apply to us, including adhering to Chinese government regulations for our localized version of LinkedIn in China," LinkedIn added. The company declined to elaborate on which local law it was examining.
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2019-01-04 https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/2180620/linkedin-adhering-beijings-rules-censors-chinese-profile-page-us-based "LinkedIn reverses course after censoring Chinese profile page of US-based human rights activist Zhou Fengsuo", see also: [zhou-fengsuo]
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2014-06-04 https://money.cnn.com/2014/06/04/technology/linkedin-china-censorship/ "LinkedIn draws fire for China censorship" mentions: "Some LinkedIn (LNKD) users have received emails from the company in recent days informing them that their posts will not be shown in mainland China."
4.16.4.3. Chinese interference in Western media (Zhong Guo Gan Yu Xi Fang Mei Ti )
This lists links between owners of several US media outlets and China: https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/04/has-china-compromised-every-major-mainstream-media-entity/ "A Rundown Of Major U.S. Corporate Media's Business Ties To China". No direct evidence that this has affected the news however.
Related:
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2021 Cinitalia [china-radio-international] offsohot publushing propaganda add-ons on the Italian newspaper Il Giornale
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ADVChina/comments/n9o2kp/italian_newspaper_controlled_by_chinese_news/
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Sample article: 2021-05-09 https://www.ilgiornale.it/news/mondo/report-che-confuta-teoria-genocidio-nello-xinjiang-1945268.html "Il report europeo che confuta il genocidio nello Xinjiang" (The European report that refutes the genocide in Xinjiang) about Xinjiang "re-education" camps (Xin Jiang Zai Jiao Yu Ying , 2017-).
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4.16.4.3.1. China watch (2011-)
Campaign by [china-daily] to add paid articles/ads that read like news in/distributed with Western newspapers. They appeared to be marked as China watch ads, but still, they should be crushed.
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2020-06: Washington Post, Wall Street Journal and others figure on official fillings of newspapers paid by China Daily: https://efile.fara.gov/docs/3457-Amendment-20200601-2.pdf.
As per the documents filed by China Daily with the Justice Department, the Communist party mouthpiece had paid over $6 million to the Wall Street Journal (WSJ), $4.6 million to the Washington Post, $2,40,000 to Foreign Policy, $50,000 to the New York Times, $34,600 to The Des Moines Register and $76,000 to CQ-Roll Call.
Besides, spending $11 million in advertising on prominent US papers, China Daily shelled out an additional $7.6 million to The Chicago Tribune, Los Angeles Times, The Seattle Times, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, The Houston Chronicle, and The Boston Globe for printing copies of its own paper. For instance, the Los Angeles Times reportedly received $657,523 for printing services. The Communist party-mouthpiece had also spent $2,65,822 on advertising on Twitter.
The Washington Post is the one that had received the most attention earlier on since 2011:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post#China_Daily_advertising_supplements
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https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/02/official-chinese-propaganda-now-online-from-the-wapo/70690/ "Official Chinese Propaganda: Now Online from the WaPo!"
They even had online distribution channel: http://chinawatch.washingtonpost.com/ It is dead as of 2020-07, but was alive in 2018
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Daily Telegraph: UK Daily Telegraph stops publishing section paid for by China[piece of shit] tabloid, it comes as no surprise that they would sell out to any dictatorship
2020-04-14 https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/apr/14/daily-telegraph-stops-publishing-section-paid-for-by-china "Daily Telegraph stops publishing section paid for by China"
China Daily itself claims certain partnerships: [china-daily] https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/static_e/global.html:
China Daily has also developed diversified cooperation with over 40 media organizations around the world, including The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, The Daily Telegraph, the Guardian, etc.
4.16.4.4. bandinchina GitHub repository
Contains a "List of companies who have apologized to the Chinese government and implemented censorship requests".
It only lists companies that implemented censorship outside of China however (with Hong Kong, Taiwan and Macau defined as outside of China), therefore it is basically a Taiwan flag takedown + Hong Kong / Taiwan censorship list:
Other interesting GitHub repositories: GitHub repositories with censored information (Zheng Zhi Min Gan De GitHubKu ).
4.16.4.5. Western companies that stood up against the CCP (Fan Kang Zhong Gong De Xi Fang Qi Ye )
See also:
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Xinjiang cotton (Xin Jiang Mian Hua , 2021)
4.16.4.5.1. Western companies that supported the CCP (Zhi Chi Zhong Gong De Xi Fang Qi Ye )
See also:
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Western companies that comply with Chinese censorship requests (Zun Shou Zhong Guo Shen Cha Yao Qiu De Xi Fang Gong Si )
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[western-companies-that-sell-censorship-technology-to-dictatorships]
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Xinjiang cotton (Xin Jiang Mian Hua , 2021)
4.16.5. Entertainers who support the CCP (Zhi Chi Zhong Gong De Yi Ren )
Western:
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2021-05-25 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cena for One China policy (Yi Ge Zhong Guo )
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/26/john-cena-very-sorry-for-saying-taiwan-is-a-country about
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https://twitter.com/tony_zy/status/1397188279322173442 Apology video with English subtitles. YouTube reupload: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqjOrsMupgg
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[lebron-james-opposes-hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019]
Chinese who are famous in the West:
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Jackie Chan Chen Gang Sheng even though he is born in Hong Kong
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3T_Dd3O1UM spoke against the [hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019]
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https://www.thestandard.com.hk/section-news/fc/21/216376/Police-chief-says-Jackie-Chan-made-him
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Liu Yifei Liu Yi Fei who starred in the Mulan 2020 Disney movie. To make matters more fun, some scenes were shot in Xinjiang (Xin Jiang ): https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4004891
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/16/disneys-mulan-star-sparks-call-for-boycott-with-hong-kong-stance opposed the [hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019], notably saying "What a shame for Hong Kong". The People's Daily later quoted her: https://web.archive.org/web/20190816162331/http://en.people.cn/n3/2019/0816/c90000-9606859.html
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Chinese celebrities who opposed the CCP:
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[hao-haidong]
4.16.6. Entertainers who oppose the CCP (Fan Dui Zhong Gong De Yi Ren )
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2021 Enes Kanter's shoes (Ai Nei Si *Kan Te , NBA) what a hero
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2021 ranks China below F in a Country tier list video: https://youtu.be/x1PjAhpUjYQ?t=198, appears to be a rip of this members-only content: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NCcFkuosfI. Reddit entry: https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/ptzygj/pewdiepie_you_are_a_legend/
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2019 on [hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhWZavn2OvM Hong Kong vs Joker Ends Fortnite [MEME REVIEW]
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4.17. Chinese Interference in the Western education systems (Zhong Gong Dui Xi Fang Jiao Yu Ti Xi De Gan Yu )
Related about university interference:
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2021-08-04 https://www.nzz.ch/english/swiss-phd-students-dismissal-spotlights-chinas-influence-ld.1638771 | https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/hsg-und-china-kritik-auf-twitter-kostet-doktoranden-abschluss-ld.1637789 Swiss PHD under pseudonum Oliver Gerber kicked out of doctorate for criticizing China on Twitter. Real name, his Twitter, and advisors were not disclosed because his girlfriend lives in China. University name: University of St. Gallen (HSG, it specialises in business administration, economics, law, and international affairs, HSG also has among the most billionaire alumni in the world). On r/China Reddit sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/China/duplicates/oxc9qk/phd_student_in_switzerland_expelled_from_his/
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2020-12-05 https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN28F05U "U.S. ends exchange programs with China, calling them 'propaganda'". Only five of the programs were terminated:
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Policymakers Educational China Trip Program
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U.S.-China Friendship Program
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U.S.-China Leadership Exchange Program
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U.S.-China Transpacific Exchange Program
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Hong Kong Educational and Cultural Program
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2020-06-17 https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/US-blacklists-China-s-MIT-as-tech-war-enters-new-phase Harbin Institute of Technology denied MATLAB support for being in the entity list, apparenty since may: https://www.commerce.gov/news/press-releases/2020/05/commerce-department-add-two-dozen-chinese-companies-ties-wmd-and
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2020-05-28 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/motion-backing-hong-kong-blocked-after-campaign-by-chinese-students-at-warwick-fsdfphr26 "Motion backing Hong Kong blocked after campaign by Chinese students at Warwick". The article mentions that "Just under 1,000 students voted in favour of the motion. Turnout was three times higher than other votes and officials said that it was a new record for participation."
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2020-08 https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/craven-cowardice-unsw-condemned-for-deleting-posts-critical-of-beijing-20200803-p55hy5.html "'Craven cowardice': UNSW condemned for deleting posts critical of Beijing" University of New South Wales
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2020-05 Drew Pavlou Bo Le Zhi
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University of Queensland, Australia, was trying to get rid of him for anti-CCP campaign
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o1sZefER0E China Unscripted interview
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China buying pre-University educational institutions:
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2021-06-11 https://archive.ph/RkHjR Insider investigation reveals officials helped sell access to California public schools to Chinese elite
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2021-02-21 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9282617/British-private-institutions-bought-Chinese-firms.html "The British schools selling out to Beijing: Not only are private institutions being bought by Chinese firms but some are giving communist-approved lessons that are a threat to free speech", gives list of 17 schools bought
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2021-03-24 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education-and-careers/2021/03/24/chinese-buying-private-schools-should-grateful/ "The Chinese are buying into our private schools and we should be grateful" what, lady, are you nuts?
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2019-07-10 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chinese-buy-up-more-of-england-s-private-schools-pjr6692bq "Chinese buy up more of England's private schools", "Chinese investors have secured another foothold in the English private school sector with the PS150 million purchase of CATS colleges."
4.17.1. Confucius institute (Kong Zi Xue Yuan )
News and reports:
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2019-09 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-49511231 (archive) "Confucius Institutes: The growth of China's controversial cultural branch"
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2019-01 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2019/01/11/u-s-universities-have-shut-down-confucius-institutes-heres-what-you-need-to-know/ (archive) "Why U.S. universities are shutting down China-funded Confucius Institutes"
4.17.2. University espionage (Da Xue Jian Die )
Lists:
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2021-02-08 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/2/8/uk-academics-investigated-over-china-military-research-report "Nearly 200 British academics at more than 12 universities in the United Kingdom are being investigated on suspicion of unwittingly helping the Chinese government build weapons of mass destruction"
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2020-06-12 https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/fifty-four-scientists-have-lost-their-jobs-result-nih-probe-foreign-ties "Fifty-four scientists have lost their jobs as a result of NIH probe into foreign ties" and "In 93% of those cases, the hidden funding came from a Chinese institution." and "In the vast majority of cases, Lauer reported, the person being investigated has been an Asian man in his 50s."
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1262441045197049856.html List of professors around America caught selling secret research to the Chinese Communist Regime
People:
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2020-11-17 Song Guo Zheng, Ohio State University
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2020-09 Haizhou Hu from University of Virginia: https://www.cbs19news.com/story/42560934/uva-researcher-arrested-on-federal-charges
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2020-07 Houston consulate closed due to alllegations of facilitating intellectual property theft without public proof
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/02/politics/us-chinese-diplomat-restrictions/index.html "US imposes new restrictions on Chinese diplomats" has been another direct effect of this most likely
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2020-07 Juan Tang
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/23/chinese-researcher-wanted-by-fbi-flees-to-san-francisco-consulate-as-us-china-row-deepens "Chinese researcher wanted by FBI flees to San Francisco consulate as US-China row deepens"
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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3094511/us-charges-four-scientists-hiding-ties-chinese-government has her PLA photos
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2020 Hao Zhang: https://www.voanews.com/usa/chinese-professor-convicted-stealing-trade-secrets-china from Avago and Skyworks
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2020 Charles Lieber
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_M._Lieber he had won a Wolf Prize in Chemistry
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2019 Shih Yi-chi from UCLA
4.17.3. Chinese student coordinator in Germany tells exchange students not to support democracy (2020, De Guo Xue Xiao Kai Ban Hui 4Fan Dui Min Zhu )
YET UNCONFIRMED VIDEO, we have to find who that person is exactly.
The video shows what seems to be Chinese a high school dorm coordinator saying that their Chinese exchange students must stay away from ideas [democracy] and freedom.
And remember that "democracy" and "freedom" are two of the [core-socialist-values]!
First ripped from uploader's Douyin account named Michael_c118, who also appears to be the person on the video.
Original proeminent report on the West: 2020-10-04 https://twitter.com/SDeutschlands/status/1312682617888796673 by "Voice From Germany De Guo Zhi Yin "
https://m.yorkbbs.ca/forum/chat/5228712.aspx contains reported screenshots of the Douyin profile (no web interface it seems), include a clear face shot.
Video also commented at:
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2020-10-31 https://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=60076&snA=5984833 from our friends from Taiwan (Republic of China, Tai Wan , Zhong Hua Min Guo )
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2020-10-25 https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/jhx2mc/chinese_student_coordinator_in_germany_talking_to/ on Reddit
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2020-19-04 https://twitter.com/HKokbore/status/1312802503956848641
Key markings:
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"De Guo Xue Xiao Kai Ban Hui 4"
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"This man is a coordinator of Chinese high school students who study in Germany"
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"We have to say there's some problems in our dorm right now"
https://twitter.com/Hujo_DR/status/1312793758203748357/photo/1 is a screenshot of the Douyin profile showing a phone number, which looks like a Chinese number due to prefix 139: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_China#Mobile_phones
The screnshots posted on yorkbbs link him to "Bei Jing Zhi Xiang De Yi Guo Ji Jiao Yu " (Beijing Zhixiang German/Italian International Education).
Googling "Bei Jing Zhi Xiang De Yi Guo Ji Jiao Yu linkedin" leads to UNCONFIRMED a Yun Xiao https://www.linkedin.com/in/xiaoyun79/ | https://archive.vn/CzZft which is not marked as working in the above organization, but could be the person in the video based on the profile picture (uncertain), and also works with education, thus the Google hit at his current organization (Bei Jing Zhi Han Wei Lai Jiao Yu Zi Xun You Xian Gong Si ).
Searching for Google exact hits to "Bei Jing Zhi Xiang De Yi Guo Ji Jiao Yu " leads to https://www.tianyancha.com/company/3283146644 which rejects foreign visits as of 2020-10-26, shows up on Google cache at on 2020-10-21 (archive).
4.17.4. Thousand Talents Program (Qian Ren Ji Hua )
Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) believes that this is exactly the type of thing that poor countries need to do to get richer: https://cirosantilli.com/#what-poor-countries-have-to-do-to-get-richer.
But we can't allow China to do it because China is a dictatorship.
4.17.5. Chinese Students and Scholars Association (CSSA, Zhong Guo Xue Sheng Xue Zhe Lian He Hui )
Abbreviation: CSSA.
News and reports:
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2019-10-13 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-13/cssa-influence-australian-universities-documents-revealed/11587454 (archive) "Chinese Students and Scholars Association's deep links to the embassy revealed" in Australia.
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2018-03-07 https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/07/chinas-long-arm-reaches-into-american-campuses-chinese-students-scholars-association-university-communist-party/ (archive)
4.17.6. United Front Work Department (UFWD, Zhong Gong Zhong Yang Tong Yi Zhan Xian Gong Zuo Bu )
China's "Diaspora management" organ.
The likely organizers behind Confucius institute (Kong Zi Xue Yuan ), Chinese Students and Scholars Association (CSSA, Zhong Guo Xue Sheng Xue Zhe Lian He Hui ), and likely several forms of Astroturfing.
4.17.6.1. United Front (Zheng Zhi Xie Shang Zhi Du )
4.17.7. Astroturfing
4.17.7.1. Soft power (Ruan Shi Li )
4.18. What should pro-democracy Chinese living in China do about the dictatorship? Xiang Yao Min Zhu Zhu Zai Zhong Guo Da Lu De Ren Ying Gai Gan Shi Yao ?
First of all, hide and stay safe, unless you can deal the final blow. From World at war, 1973, ep. 16:
A dictatorship is like a snake. If you put your foot on its tail as you do it, it will just bite you and nobody will be helped. You have to strike the head.
Du Cai Jiu Xiang Yi Tiao She . Ru Guo Ni Zai Zhe Yang Zuo De Shi Hou Ba Jiao Fang Zai Ta De Wei Ba Shang ,Ta Zhi Hui Yao Ni ,Mei You Ren Hui De Dao Bang Zhu . Ni Bi Xu Ji Da Tou Bu .
Once that is taken care of, a few good options are:
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hide your thoughts, manipulate your enemies, infiltrate the corporate, political and military power circles, and go up the ladder
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if you are an technological innovator, leave China and come work for the West. Don't strengthen commie power.
Alternatively, with technology you could also try the anonymous rebellion route, but the risk of getting caught is significant, leaving the country first is likely a good idea. See also:
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Terminus2049 (Duan Dian Xing Ji Hua , 2049bbs)
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[programthink]
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If you don't manage to do either of the above, don't do any technological work. Go work on the fields or washing dishes. Working well for Chinese companies makes the Chinese Dictatorship stronger and more deadly. See also: Embargoes make dictatorships stronger (Jin Yun Shi Du Cai Geng Qiang Da ).
And regardless: remember your kids that the commies are bastards every day.
Related:
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[xiao-bin]
4.19. Ciro Santilli's reply policy (San Xi Hou De Hui Da Zheng Ce )
People get kind of passionate sometimes about politics. And some of them might also be just malicious wumaos, although it is generally not possible to distinguish between them.
If you are not a wumao, consider this:
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Ciro Santilli is one, and antagonists are millions. It is therefore not possible to reply to all antagonists.
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Ciro has in the past tried to be nice to stupid people, and they gave nasty replies
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all discussion is useless, only the keyword attack has any chance of having any effect, and even that is slim
In order to not waste too much time on those, Ciro Santilli uses the following strategy.
If the original thread post is not very interesting, try to parse it quickly and reply once, always linking to the FAQ, and then unfollow the thread. This shows that you're still alive, and takes little effort.
Always quote reply, and always write down the ID of the OP on your reply, because discussions like this lead to a large number of comment and account deletions, which could make your reply not make much sense without the context.
After the link addressing anything that they might have said, add three randomly selected images from this repository to it. This is fundamental because the average [little-pink] does not speak English. Therefore writing is pointless.
Meme images, however, cross the language barrier beautifully. It is even better if they have Chinese captions.
Another way to see it is that we are creating a harder to censor Instagram channel.
You can think of them metaphorically as throwing hand grenades over the [gfw]. Ciro strives to add the following elements in the image itself where applicable:
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English explanation
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Chinese explanation
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date
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location
Because the CCP censors politics, and the West does not, we can never "lose" a shitargument. Even if the [wumao] supports his country in a thread, just being in the same thread as the censored material could already be problematic for the wumao, as it is proof that they've seen something they should not have seen.
Therefore the only option for them is to run away.
Finally, also try to extract the email of the user from one of their repositories. When successful, Ciro takes a [wayback-machine] snapshot of the repository as proof of SHA, and then forks it to https://github.com/wumaoland to possibly keep their email safe in case of account deletion. You never know when this information might be useful.
Then, after replying, do your best never to read the inevitable reply again, and above all, never ever reply. An interesting reply never follows from a non-interesting original post. It is hard at first, but you will eventually get the hang of it.
If the user keeps generating notifications, block them as per CONTRIBUTING.md, replying to a single person multiple times is useless.
Never block users for an initial shitposts, just reply with a stupid joke instead. This approach creates more uncertainty and makes you look cooler. It also allows you to identify who the enemy is. Only block if the user is generating multiple notifications.
If a shitpost is made on most other social media except GitHub issues in this repository, e.g. Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, immediately block the user on that website if you have the permission to do that, with a canned reply:
Hi
, I don't reply to China issues here, please open an issue at: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues instead, cheers.
Note however that this is not possible on idiotic websites like Quora where such comments may be deleted, possibly automatically, who the fuck knows, e.g. as done at: https://www.quora.com/What-would-happen-if-I-walked-around-Beijing-with-a-t-shirt-that-said-freedom-of-speech-is-pretty-great/answer/Ciro-Santilli/comment/143227962 In that case just link to sections of the FAQ, or mute people, or maybe just block all comments on the post to not waste time with new useless notifications.
This is because it is not worth answering anywhere else where the information will be scattered and impossible to find later on, and especially on websites that are already blocked in China. Shitposts on Stack Overflow and other non-blocked websites are encouraged however, as they further help to get the website blocked in China.
For outbursts of activity from Chinese websites, usually programming (v2ex, hacpai, pincong), only post the following canned answer and nothing else, because cowards/people who don't know English from the website might delete your posts, so you shouldn't waste time there with that shit:
Da Jia Ni Hao
Zai Wo De GitHubZhong Guo FAQ repositoryWo Yi Jing Hui Da Liao Hao Ji Ge Guan Yu Wo Chang Jian De Wen Ti .
Ni Men Yao Shi Zai Na Er Zhao Bu Dao Yi Ge Hui Da ,Qing Zai Na Ge repositoryKai Yi Ge issue,Wo Ma Shang Jiu Hui Da .
Wo Bu Yao Zai Zai Zhe Ge Wang Ye Ping Lun .
Finally, don't forget the golden rule from Proverbs 26:4:
Don't answer the foolish arguments of fools, or you will become as foolish as they are.
which is now usually seen in the form of unclear attribution:
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Where basically idiot == someone who creates posts that obviously aren't teaching you any new useful thing, or that not praising you :-)
Alternatively, there is also the Chinese chengyu version:
Dui Niu Dan Qin
which means:
Playing the qin to a cow.
which means to talk to someone who does not have intellectual conditions of understanding what you are trying to say, bibliography:
More wumao focused strategies at: [how-to-deal-with-wumaos].
cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#733 by https://github.com/newcih is an interesting issue. OP has managed to close and change the issue title despite being blocked. Is he raising support tickets? Or can blocked people do that now? E.g. note towards cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#733 (comment) how cirosantilli managed to reopen twice without any visible closes in the middle. They also have a Twitter BTW: https://twitter.com/newcih2020/status/1520405835679109120
4.19.1. Asymmetric information warfare (Bu Dui Cheng Xin Xi Zhan )
This is a term "invented" by Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) to denote the type of democracy vs dictatorship propaganda warfare that naturally emerges.
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the dictatorship has [censorship] and legions of possibly non-anonymous supporters. Although most supporters are actually anonymous anyways
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the anti-censorship democracy has memes, and a few anonymous supporters
This concept is a mixture of the concepts of:
4.19.2. china-dictatorship reply bot
Due to the nature of Asymmetric information warfare (Bu Dui Cheng Xin Xi Zhan ), Ciro has created a reply bot based on GitHub Actions that does the above automatically, therefore handling 99% of the work, see:
The bot works beautifully because it makes Ciro not feel the need to reply to every idiot [wumao] that comes along. Also Ciro can hide like a coward behind the bot by editing the bot's comment, which is perfect. This reminded Ciro from something that was said in Better Call Saul S01 E01:
And they find themselves in a little room with a detective who acts like he's their best friend.
"Talk to me," he says. "Help me clear this thing up."
"You don't need a lawyer, only guilty people need lawyers."
And, boom, hey, that's when it all goes south.
That's when you want someone in your corner.
Someone who will fight tooth and nail.
Lawyers, we're like health insurance.
You hope you never need it, but, man, oh, man, not having it? No.
The bot is basically Ciro's lawyer, always loyally on his corner of the fighting ring.
There is only one bug with the bot as of 2021: if a [wumao] with unverified email makes several comments very fast, only the first one generates the reply, see e.g.:
Ciro is however curious how those unverified accounts can comment at all, as that seemd impossible when he last tried it with a dummy account, to be confirmed.
4.20. Who is behind this amazing FAQ? (Shui Shi Zhe Ge Liang Ren De Chang Jian Wen Ti Jie Da De Mu Hou Tui Shou ?)
4.20.1. Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De )
Original creator of https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship: https://cirosantilli.com/
4.20.1.1. Ciro Santilli's wife (San Xi Hou De Lao Po )
Born and raised in China: Why does Ciro Santilli love China so much? (Wei Shi Yao San Xi Hou Xi Huan Zhong Guo Na Yao Duo ?).
She and her mother do [falun-gong], see also: Does Ciro Santilli support Falun Gong just because his wife and mother-in-law do it? (San Xi Hou Shi Fou Jin Jin Yin Wei Ta De Qi Zi He Yue Mu Jiu Zhi Chi Fa Lun Gong ?).
Believes to be descendant of the brother of a recent Qing emperor, see also: Ciro Santilli's claim to the Qing Dynasty throne (San Xi Hou Qing Zhao Huang Di Ji Yu ).
For this same reason, her father, who Ciro's wife worships, spent around 10 years in the 50's for being branded a counter revolutionary rightist (You Pai ) during one of Mao's purges, possibly:
It is also for this reason that many Manchu changed their names to hide their Manchu origins, which makes reconstructing their family tree much harder, as mentioned at: https://www.scmp.com/article/982136/proud-manchu-reclaims-his-rich-heritage for the purposes of Ciro Santilli's claim to the Qing Dynasty throne (San Xi Hou Qing Zhao Huang Di Ji Yu ).
Ciro's wife:
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studied in one of the best universities of China
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met Ciro his wife when they were in possibly the best engineering university in France after she had refused opportunities to go to the USA
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obtained a PhD in number theory in one of the best mathematics universities in the world
and is way smarter than Ciro.
Wumaos can say many things about her, but claiming that she is not intelligent or has no culture or would have any difficulty in obtaining a qualified worker VISA without a marriage, is a lost argument from the start, she would likely kick your butt in a raw intelligence competition.
Ciro is actually the lucky one for having found her!
The fake "the woman makes the man" Obama story comes to mind https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/spousal-success-story/ (Obama would never say that in public):
One night President Obama and his wife Michelle decided to do something out of routine and go for a casual dinner at a restaurant that wasn't too luxurious. When they were seated, the owner of the restaurant asked the President's Secret Service if he could please speak to the First Lady in private. They obliged and Michelle had a conversation with the owner.
Following this conversation President Obama asked Michelle, "Why was he so interested in talking to you?" She mentioned that in her teenage years, he had been madly in love with her. President Obama then said, "So if you had married him, you would now be the owner of this lovely restaurant," to which Michelle responded, "No. If I had married him, he would now be the President."
Less "China-related" remarks at: https://cirosantilli.com/ciro-santilli-s-wife
4.21. How do different websites view Ciro Santilli's profile? (Bu Tong De Wang Zhan Ru He Kan Lai Ciro Santilli De Ge Ren Zi Liao ?)
Politics should not be posted in technical websites such as GitHub or Stack Overflow Bu Ying Gai Zai Ji Zhu Wang Zhan Li Ru Stack OverflowHe GitHubTao Lun Zheng Zhi contains a more general overview. This contains website specifics.
4.21.1. Stack Overflow
Stack Overflow is where Ciro Santilli (San Xi Hou , anti-CCP fanatic, Fan Zhong Gong Kuang Re , stupid cunt, Sha Bi , CIA agent, CIATe Gong , Cao Ni Ma De ) started his Screen name keyword attack (Wang Ming Shen Cha Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji ) originally in 2015 as explained at: Why did Ciro Santilli start his keyword attack? (Wei Shi Yao San Xi Hou Kai Shi Ta De Guan Jian Zi Gong Ji ?).
For non-programmers, Stack Overflow is by far the leading programmer question and answer forum of the Internet.
A programmer's daily job involves asking Google about 50 times a day "how to do X", and 90% of the time or more the best answer will be found on the Stack Overflow result that will be one of the top 3 results.
This makes Stack Overflow a fundamental tool of every programmer's daily jobs.
The current community consensus says that keyword attacks are allowed:
However, you can't say "Public figure X is disgusting as a person" so [wumao]s, could you please report Ciro making fun of Xi Jinping X and see what they do about it?
Reposts:
Oh, and you can't criticize God either! https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/231334/is-it-acceptable-to-insult-god-in-a-user-profile
The Chinese law doesn't allow Ciro's profile unfortunately: [real-username-law]
Since you will fail through Stack Overflow moderation, please consider instead making a report on the [cac-report-website].
4.21.1.1. Stack Overflow forbids criticizing the character of genocidal political leaders like Xi Jinping
Edit: as was made clearer later on at Stack Overflow mods refuse to clarify if anti-CCP imagery is allowed or not (2021), they just generally refuse to say clearly what is allowed or not.
Ciro was actually quite shocked by this.
He thought more people on Stack Overflow would have sided with him and favored stronger freedom of speech.
But this event made him notice that people in Stack Overflow simply didn't push back against Ciro's anti Xi Jinping campaign because they don't know who the fuck Xi Jinping is, or they don't care, or they are completely hypocrite and allow criticizing Xi Jinping but not Trump.
But they do know who Trump is, and "offending Trump" makes their feeble little feelings be hurt, and they must maintain their sacred "political correctness" at all costs, even when talking about politicians. Including that the cost of freedom.
This therefore morally justifies the take-down attempts made by hundreds of [wumao]s against Ciro's anti Xi Jinping content.
First by initiative of Stack Overflow employee Cesar Manara (Brazilian), the sentence:
I think Trump is disgusting as a person
was removed from Ciro's profile and notified.
In response, Ciro created a meta thread to confirm that the community agreed, and they did: Can I say on my profile that I find that an (ex) president of a country or other major political public figure is "disgusting as a person"? and the community agreed with the removal: it reached only 5 upvotes and 25 downvotes. Ciro's profile at the time was linked to Trump's ban on social media: trump-ban-is-bad.md.
Ciro then created If a politician has committed genocide, can I say on my profile they look like Winnie-the-Pooh to insult them because they hate that? was it was also mostly downvoted, and deleted, without any answer. Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20210227034430/https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/361493/if-a-politician-has-committed-genocide-can-i-say-on-my-profile-they-look-like-w also reproduced at: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#198 (comment) The deletion voters were:
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/215590/polygeo (Australia, big Geographic Information System person, real name based on https://polygeo.com.au/elearning-videos/ "Graeme Browning")
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/135565/journeyman-geek (Singapore). Site elected admin at the time, which implies that his deletion cannot be undone by non-admins. TODO are they born in Singapore? If yes they might also be pro Xi Jinping, which is a clear conflict of interest with freedom of speech. But their English sounds perfect, so Ciro is not sure if it is common for Singapore natives or not.
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/140890/martijn-pieters (UK, lots of Python rep)
There was no yes/no answer by anyone, because the of cowardice and hypocrisy:
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saying "you can" would imply you can criticize Trump
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saying "you can't" would imply they support genocide
So their brains just tilted, and they clicked the "delete" button as the only possible resolution. The overly speedy deletion of posts was then raised as an issue two days later for an unrelated post: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/405585/can-we-slow-down-on-the-deletes-on-meta-folks
Then Ciro created an answer to "Does the Be Nice policy require SE users to "be nice" to people who are not SE users (e.g. public figures)?" which is a superset of the previous ones referred by them. That post is reproduced at cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#198 (comment) It cites the case in which the law was tested, but it was single-handedly by journeyman-geek (from Singapore) without any justification.
Ciro then finally updated his profile picture to contain [xi-pooh-photoshop], archive at: https://archive.vn/iV1L8 to test the Winnie-the-Pooh case which people simply refused to answer. Let's see show that goes. As Ciro learned however, only wumaos will continue to complain, and due to hypocrisy their complaints will be ignored.
Other users who publicly went against freedom of speech in that case (in the name of "political correctness"):
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/665544/bad-coder ("West") replied at: https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/361486/can-i-say-on-my-profile-that-i-find-that-an-ex-president-of-a-country-or-other/361495#361495
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/798831/ollie comments, ciro replies, they delete comment, comments, ciro reply, they delete comment... ciro gives up
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/361486/can-i-say-on-my-profile-that-i-find-that-an-ex-president-of-a-country-or-other?noredirect=1#comment1206900_361486 wants to close as duplicate of uber generic https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/208551/offensive-profiles-where-to-draw-the-line/208553#208553 and says:
we don't have to host or pay directly or indirectly to support your opinion. That's well established policy"
Freedom of speech in social media is truly threatened by the Censorship of "politically incorrect speech" (Shen Cha Zheng Zhi Bu Zheng Que Yan Lun ).
Related issue: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#198
4.21.1.2. Stack Overflow political image answer placeholder (2021)
The deleted answer was https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/83446/gimp-how-to-combine-two-images-side-by-side/145543#145543
It used Ciro Santilli's CC By-SA Tank Man image.
Of course, once again, just like mentioned at Stack Overflow forbids criticizing the character of genocidal political leaders like Xi Jinping, people prefer to:
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feel safe and good in their fake cocoon rather than have freedom. While people are dying, right now, in Xinjiang "re-education" camps (Xin Jiang Zai Jiao Yu Ying , 2017-)
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being fully inclusive means being inclusive to dictatorship supporters
No archives unfortunately, but:
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reproduced at: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#269
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https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/83446/gimp-how-to-combine-two-images-side-by-side/145543#145543 (archive) identical politically correct one
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analogous to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20737061/merge-images-side-by-sidehorizontally/63575228#63575228 (archive)
The full moderation team at the time can be seen publicly at https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/users?tab=moderators (archive) and it also contains:
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https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/users/41100/piebie (archive) Real name: Pieter Biesemans, a front-end developer from Belgium: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pieter-biesemans/
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https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/users/18168/curious (archive) Anonymous, from Canada.
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https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/users/19174/wrzlprmft (archive) Gerrit Ansmann, a brain researcher from Bonn University, Germany: https://idw-online.de/de/news646752
Deletion message:
Hello,
We're writing in reference to your Graphic Design Stack Exchange account:
We think you are already aware of what we are going to say, but we are going to say it anyway. Stack Exchange is an apolitical platform, and we like to keep politics as for away from our content as possible. Our