Hey sorry I'm a little lost on context here. Is this Ethereum-specific? Would it make sense to try to get support for this in, say, the AllCoreDevs discord of the Ethereum Foundation if so, or in the equivalent repo/community forum where protocol upgrades are designed and aligned in some other namespace first, and then bring a generalized v2 back afterwards with some implementer feedback and lessons learned?

It is not ethereum specific, the problem exists in every network as far as I've experienced.
I was hoping to use this process to establish a well thought out and constructed standard on which implementations can be built.

OK! Is there anything similar implemented in the wild that this is an improvement on? Or do you know of other VMs/ecosystems/"namespaces" that have a use-case for this and are interested in specifying it before or after implementing? If you look in the open PRs, there are a few other, similar ideas (many of them authored by me!) which are similarly waiting for an implementer-champion, because we prefer not to specify pure greenfield at CASA, so much as things that at least 1, preferably 2 independent implementations are at least softly-commited to taking to production...

Sounds good! I'll take a look through and see what I can find.
Do you have any time to have a conversation online? I'd love to understand everything better so I can be a more constructive contributor along with my team.

absolutely! feel free to book something at cal.com/ and bring as much or as little of your team as you think would be constructive

absolutely! feel free to book something at cal.com/ and bring as much or as little of your team as you think would be constructive

whoops my cal.com was misconfigured and swallowing requests without throwing, if you already made an appointment it was lost. could I ask you to try again if so?

@null-ref-ex any progress here? i'll be in US time zones starting in 2 weeks so glad to take any joint calls with partners that are curious about the idea. apologies that I forgot about this and didn't ask around at Devconnect like I hoped to!

@null-ref-ex thought of you the other day:
https://github.com/ethcatherders/EIPIP/blob/master/All%20EIPIP%20Meetings/Meeting%20096.md#add-eip-versioning-scheme-for-eips-8034

(See also the eth-mag thread)

A proposal on how we can lay a solid foundation for requesting chain software information alongside a standard data structure for response payloads. The hope is that this can lay a foundation on which systems can be built that address ongoing issues for node runners and validator operators know about and automatically executing on software release events.